I have been following the saga involving the Tooks Chambers barristers' pupillage advice event with great interest, writes OccupyTheInns.
The comments from students who attended the event that have appeared on Legal Cheek over the course of the weekend have been rather interesting. Waxing lyrical in their praise of what appears to be a high quality experience, one (see below) even suggested that the original £186 price would have been a fair sum to pay if the event had not been made free-of-charge.
Reading these words – with the tropical sun on my back and iPad in hand while I continue my travels before commencing pupillage in September – caused me to reflect.
When I first read of an event run by barristers from an excellent set like Tooks charging £186 for pupillage application advice from Michael Mansfield QC, I was outraged. Principally I feared catastrophic consequences for social mobility. In addition, I also found it rather unedifying to see fellow members of the Bar engaging in such overtly commercial behaviour. However, having had cause to review my initial reaction, I am now able to see that it lacked nuance.
Let me begin by re-phrasing the debate about charging money to see high quality performers in terms of Premier League football. What price to gain admission to watch Ryan Giggs, Robin Van Persie or any other of football's answers to Michael Mansfield? £50 at the minimum; often far more.
For that sum, all a spectator can hope for is to watch the players, not interact with and learn from them – as the students who attended Saturday's workshop were able to do. Do Premier League footballers give their time on a Saturday afternoon for free? No. They are paid many thousands of pounds a week to perform.
There are exceptions to this rule, it must be said. Charity work is one example of this. So too is the provision of occasional training sessions to young players.
I was fortunate enough to enjoy one of these sessions a number of years ago, when my father won the opportunity to spend a day training with Arsenal at an after-dinner auction. The proceeds of the auction all went to charity, meaning the day had no economic benefit to the players.
The time I spent with Thierry (Henry), Martin (Keown) and Freddie (Ljunberg), to name but a few of the players, was invaluable. My tactical awareness improved immeasurably thanks to Martin's tips on marking and Thierry's guidance on the timing of my runs. In addition, the players' advice on which clubs possessed the best youth systems would have been very useful if I had decided to pursue the avenue of professional football rather than the Bar.
However, for my sins I chose the Bar. And do you know why? Because I wanted to make a difference to society. For that, I was willing to forgo the riches of professional sport. But one still has to live. In view of the enormous social contribution made by barristers from chambers like Tooks, is it fair to expect them to provide their time outside work for free? What a difficult question.
My answer would be, yes, within reason. Nevertheless, in some circumstances I could foresee it also being understandable to charge. What I would do under no circumstances is judge a fellow barrister who asks for a relatively small amount in compensation for giving up their precious weekend to help others.
OccupyTheInns was called to the Bar in July 2011. He will commence pupillage in autumn. There's more from OccupyTheInns here.
Surely now OTI is beyond parody...?
£186 was not 'relatively small', and nor, it seems, was it going to charity. That initial price was really, really foolish.
£20 each might have been fair, reasonable and understandable. Around 200 people turned up to a very good event; that could have generated a nice sum of money.
What a load of pompous rubbish, written in the style of someone just out of law school. As other posters say it was not the charging but the amount that caused most dismay. I nearly vomited when I saw the footballers names in brackets as if they are great mates and on first name terms!
I, too, will be starting pupillage in autumn.
The issue I have with charging for advice does somewhat go against a lot of what the Bar is meant to represent, namely a collegiate atmosphere. I find it a bit disappointing that barristers, especially at somewhere like Tooks, should do this.
I think barristers should help the next generation with applications but charging just seems a bit, excuse the pun, cheap. Either help or don't, charging just makes it seem dirty. Its my opinion that people who have been successful should encourage and assist their would-be heirs. This not only allows for those who might be brilliant to break through the wall of OLPAS but would imbue the same attitude. Once you put a price on this, what sets the Bar apart and gives it its unique and special quality, is lost forever.
Sentimental, probably. Gushing, almost certainly.
FYI Lincoln's Inn run something called the Pupillage Foundation Scheme which is almost exactly the same but runs over several weeks, gives candidates assistance with every aspect of the application, including interviews and assigns each with a mentor. All for FREE
If an applicant's really done all they can to make themselves an attractive candidate for pupillage then a one day seminar really isn't going to be the deal breaker. The formula is quite clear - get a good degree (a first from a top university), get decent work experience, have excellent communication skills and network, network, network. There is clearly a market for this type of event and those who set this up are just trying to make a living. There will always be people who have enough spare cash to be able to afford to attend these things and there will always be those who don't. It's the way of the world.
If Thierry can teach you how to time your runs, how is it that every barrister you've ever met can't teach you to shut up?
What an awfully smug article. I hope, for your sake OTI, that this complacent attitude changes before you begin pupillage. If it doesn't, you won't last long!
Every barrister has benefited from the gratis advice and assistance of others within the profession . It is only right, and in the best tradition of the Bar, that they do the same for others.
"If Thierry can teach you how to time your runs, how is it that every barrister you've ever met can't teach you to shut up?"
amen.
"What a load of pompous rubbish, written in the style of someone just out of law school. As other posters say it was not the charging but the amount that caused most dismay. I nearly vomited when I saw the footballers names in brackets as if they are great mates and on first name terms!"
It must be quite hard reading the internet with such weakened antennae for irony. Your poor keyboard must have to be washed quite regularly!
"If Thierry can teach you how to time your runs, how is it that every barrister you've ever met can't teach you to shut up?"
Vous êtes vraiment charmant.
In order to enter the Bar, we have all had to complete rigorous academic training, and quite rightly so. However, this training does not come cheap, and to charge a fee at the level proposed for this event flies in the face of the very creditable recent progress made by the Bar in widening access and ensuring that a career as a barrister is open to all.
In my view the Bar is a meritocratic profession at heart. However, we at the Bar cannot escape the fact that the profession is seen in some quarters as not being sufficiently representative, and this criticism has been used as a stick at which to beat the Bar for some time. We at the Bar do ourselves no favours in this regard by attempting to charge £175 to students in an attempt to cash in on their sheer desperation to gain pupillage. As the number of pupillages dwindle, this kind of profiteering could very easily be seen as exploiting a vulnerable market.
Most of us have either completed an LLB or a degree in a different field - for arguments sake, let's assume we have incurred approximately £10-18,000 in completing our undergraduate degree. Those like me – who haven't opted for a LLB – go on to do a GDL which can cost within the region of £6-10,000. Some of us then contemplate acquiring an LLM, to 'distinguish' ourselves from our contemporaries; this costs £3-12,000. After spending £19-40,000, we then face the penultimate academic stage - The Bar Professional Training Course which costs a whopping £8-16,500.
That gives us a grand total of £27-56,500 – and bear in mind that this doesn't include the cost of living, accommodation, books etc. To reach this stage we have either accumulated a string of debts, worked ourselves to the bone, and/or have had parents who have sacrificed their life savings, remortgaged their home, and worked two jobs or overtime.
We then confront the dreaded and most daunting hurdle – seeking pupillage. We are repeatedly advised – now that we are equipped with the academic training – that we must obtain practical experience. This can consist anything from voluntary work at charities, NGOs, CABs, advice surgeries, and international stints to working as paralegal, advocate and so forth. Now, let’s all be honest, the money is not great. But for me and many more like me, we are not in this profession for the money; job satisfaction is the key and only motivation. Indeed, taking into account the legal aid cuts that are due to take place next month, the Bar is faced with a bleak and uncertain future for all.
My point is, I'm not saying it is impossible – nothing is impossible – but it certainly makes it difficult, to say the very least, to even reach this stage. I understand and agree that we are striving to enter a profession which requires hard work, determination, resilience, integrity, intellectual rigour and dedication; but the increasing financial constraints only serve to provide ammunition for those who would say that membership of the Bar is a privilege open only to the more affluent members of society today.
Now more importantly, as aspiring barristers, we look up to senior barristers to encourage and support us as to the realities and possible avenues of entering the Bar. We do not expect to pay an 'exorbitant' amount, namely £175, for an opportunity that should be if not free, then accessible to all. I would like to emphasise at this point, this is in no way whatsoever, a criticism on part of the many keynote speakers such as Michael Mansfield QC, Jo Sidhu QC and Andrew Hall QC who sacrificed their Saturday to provide free advice and support to individuals such as me. Indeed I am certain that if we all had the privilege of meeting such individuals, they would have been more than willing to provide such advice in the absence of any event. Neither is this a reflection upon the ethos of leading chambers such as Tooks and institutions such as the Criminal Bar Association. If anything it is the contrary, organisations, chambers and individuals such as those inspire barristers such as myself who are seeking pupillage, that there is a glimmer of hope – that the notion that the Bar is open to all is still prevalent today.
However, £175, really? Honestly, that is a 1/4 of my monthly salary, as for many more individuals ... Now I understand and agree that events of this nature can have a quasi-commercial character to them, they incur costs that need to be met, and where people give up their time free of charge to talk at them, that is a matter of their generosity and not something that should necessarily be taken for granted.
Nevertheless, how is £175 in any way justifiable as a reasonable cost for a ticket/ event providing advice on how to obtain pupillage? Let’s play devil’s advocate here and break this down logically: how much would holding an event like this actually cost? The likely estimation of costs would entail venue hire on a hourly rate of £60-100; light snacks and refreshments at £200 - 500; catering at £100-250; advertising at £100 - 250; and miscellaneous costs of £100- 250. Of course, keynote speakers spoke free, so that was one cost that did not need to be factored in. Now if I am missing something, by all means I am open and amenable to this, however surely this couldn't have cost more than £980 - 2050? To charge students £10-25 or even £30 is reasonable and justifiable: we all recognise that events such as these do require money and generate costs, but £175? Should one ponder, has a blatant bottom line approach been taken?
Now let’s go on to deliberate an approximate estimation of how many pupils, who indeed had the initial funds requested, to attend what was an "invaluable opportunity and event" as exclaimed by a fellow friend. We all know it’s that time of year again, and we are all anxiously preparing our applications for pupillage. So let’s estimate that 150- 200 individuals attended, that would generate £26,250 - 35,000 in return. That in turn yields a staggering estimated profit of £24,200 - 32,950. Wow - was a scholarship "originally" advertised as a surprise award to holders of the golden tickets?
Yes the cost of this event was "originally" £175, then reduced to £80, to a further £42.50 and eventually made free of charge, with a full refund to all who were vulnerable enough to pay. But this event could have easily been sponsored and supported by all - this is indicated by City Law Solicitors, Tooks and various keynote speakers involvement. Indeed, I have also collaborated in holding such an event in the past, and was pleasantly surprised at the amount of institutions, barristers, solicitors and Inns of Court who were willing to freely commit and support such event without any persuasion. So why was this event "originally", and one places emphasis on "originally", advertised for £175 when all these opportunities were readily available, or perhaps even confirmed from the very outset? Hmmmm.
Lastly, although it is conceded that this event was advertised as being priced at £42.50, and then eventually free, individuals such as myself were prevented from the opportunity of such an invaluable experience. Why? Because we did not have the initial funds to attend and/or by the time that we were aware that it was free, it was sadly too late. As previously stated, taking into account financial constraints, do we now need to spend £175 for advice on how to obtain pupillage? What must we do next, sell our kidneys to be afforded such opportunities?
One musters the courage to question the unanswerable, the following three-fold questions:
1. IF the benefit of a scholarship was "originally" advertised as part of this event, justifying the original sum of £175 then why wasn't and hasn't this "originally" been promoted by keynote speakers, organisations and students?
2. If sponsorship was secured at the very outset of this event then why were tickets still priced at £175?
3. Why weren't obvious sponsors who indeed committed to such an event approached from the very outset?
Being an individual who possesses an indomitable amount of passion and determination, I would like to conclude on this note: notwithstanding all the pressures and financial constraints, I and, I am sure, others like me, will not be dissuaded from pursuing a career at the Bar, and will continue to fearlessly fight for the honour, to proudly someday, call ourselves barristers.
By
An aspiring Barrister
Disclaimer: It is vehemently submitted that this commentary does not intend to discredit or disparage keynote speakers, institutions, chambers, organisations and others.
'Being an individual who possesses an indomitable amount of passion and determination'...strewth...
I hope you don't write your applications in that style!