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Question mark remains over super-exam Welsh translation

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Failure to do so may be unlawful, academic claims

The Solicitors Regulation Authority (SRA) could find itself on the wrong side of the law if it fails to offer the solicitors’ super-exam in Welsh, a Cardiff-based legal academic has claimed.

Students completing the Graduate Diploma in Law (GDL) and Legal Practice Course (LPC) in Wales are entitled to sit their exams in Welsh, with their respective law schools picking up the tab for the translation.

However, with the Solicitors Qualifying Examination (SQE) set to replace both courses in September 2021, the question remains as to whether Welsh wannabe lawyers will retain the option to take their assessments in their native language.

“Various regulators and teaching institutions are placed under the same burden as universities by Schedules in the Welsh Language (Wales) Measure 2011”, David Dixon, a senior law lecturer at Cardiff University, said. “So the idea that the SRA and its SQE Assessment Organisation [Kaplan] might also be included in these Schedules is not at all strange”.

Continuing, the legal academic said that assuming both the regulator and Kaplan, the education giant tasked with designing and delivering the SQE, are “scheduled” under Welsh Language Measure, it would be “unlawful if the SQE was provided only in English if the SQE was assessed within Wales.”

A spokesperson for the SRA said: “We’re considering the options, but no decision has been made”.

A financial penalty of up to £5,000 may be imposed if an organisation breaches the measure.

Super-exam architect Julie Brannan will be speaking at Wednesday’s Future of Legal Education and Training Conference. General release tickets are available to purchase.

48 Comments

Anonymous

“A financial penalty of up to £5,000 may be imposed if an organisation breaches the measure”

Would likely cost more to translate and mark so imagine Kaplan etc would be fine paying a penalty

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Anonymous

Tedting

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Anonymous

Brothers! Sisters!

Excitement about Prime Minister Jeremy Corbyn is rising!

CHANGE IS COMING!

SOLIDARITY WITH PALESTINE! DOWN WITH METROPOLITAN ELITES! TAX CITY GREED FOR NURSES AND TEACHERS!

VOTE LABOUR

FOR THE MANY, NOT THE FEW!!!

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Zev Jabotinsky

As a matter of interest, what does a two state solution mean to you? Does it mean, as does to Gauleiter Corbyn, the West Bank and Gaza?

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Anonymous

One that has a large wall between us and the Welsh.

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Little Englander

What’s a Wales and where can I buy one?

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Ciaran Goggins

It is near Ffyccyn LLell.

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Anonymous

Apparently it is a country only 200 miles from England. Sounds an awful place. I think many of them live underground in mines.

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For God, Wales and Charlotte Church!

Finally, the first step in our 700 year battle to shake off the yoke of Anglo-Saxon oppression! It’s only a matter of time until we storm Westminster Abbey and destroy the remains of the hated Longshanks! The spirit of Owain Glyndŵr courses through our veins! Let no free born Welshman shamefully submit his pride to the marcher lords or his neck to the law of Henry VIII! Let the voice of Tom Jones ring throughout the valleys and in the chapels: “Free at last, Free at last, Thank God almighty we are free at last!”

The dragon rises! Cymru am byth!

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Gruffydd Evans-Lewis

Rwy’n cytuno. Alex, rydych chi’n gwahaniaethu yn erbyn y Gymraeg trwy beidio â chael fersiynau Cymraeg o’ch gwefan ofnadwy!

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Anonymous

That literally looks like one of Tolkien’s languages. Amazing.

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Anonymous

Or perhaps even Lovecraft’s.

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Kirkland NQ

Wales is ok I suppose – I have a few holiday homes there, but I don’t see the relevance of it to the practice of law.

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Anonymill

This I can believe, as a “holiday home” in Wales would probably cost as much as an Oyster monthly pass in London.

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Kirkland NQ

Yeah, they aren’t quite the Chelsea townhouse. But it’s great fun taking the Lambo out in the countryside for a spin.

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Anonymous

God, one doesn’t take the sports car to Wales. It is third world out there and the roads aren’t up to it. It has to be the Range Rover for going over there.

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Anonymous

But getting the balance with Welsh places is tricky. It has to be isolated enough to avoid the locals, it can feel like a zombie B movie over there, but there have to be enough Londoners with holiday homes nearby so one has social options.

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Byron W Davues

With the call for a separate Welsh Legal System, this is quite timely (if you subscribe to this radical innovation!).

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Daffyd Ducc

We need Welsh banknotes too.

How come Scotland and N.Ireland get their own sterling notes (including a £1 note in Scotland) but not the Welsh?

I think we should have a 50p note too like there used to be in the Isle of Man, to reflect the lower cost of living in Wales!

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Anonymous

A 50p note would represent earning capacity too.

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Daffyd Duc

We also need Welsh banknotes! Scotland and N.Ireland have their own Sterling notes (including a £1 note in Scotland). I think in Wales there should be a 50p note to reflect the lower cost of living!

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Daffyd

We also need Welsh banknotes! Scotland and N.Ireland have their own Sterling notes (including a £1 note in Scotland). I think in Wales there should be a 50p note to reflect the lower cost of living!

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Daffydd Duc

We also need Welsh banknotes! Scotland and N.Ireland have their own Sterling notes (including a £1 note in Scotland). I think in Wales there should be a 50p note to reflect the lower cost of living!

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Anonymous

Calm down mate, you made your point.

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Machynlleth is not a dirty word

We also need Welsh banknotes! Scotland and N.Ireland have their own Sterling notes (including a £1 note in Scotland). I think in Wales there should be a 50p note to reflect the lower cost of living!

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Darfyd

Sorry- it looked like the comments weren’t being posted:

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Anonymagic

Question: will the GDL and LPC route be always available when the SQE exam rolls out?

Will this mean that there will be two routes to qualification available for all future solicitors? o.O

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Anonymous

GDL LPC route is being killed off

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Anonymagic

so why are universities such as UEA (recent Legal Cheek article) announcing they are pairing up to offer the LPC at their uni?

What is the point of this?

Thanks for your reply btw!

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Anonymoose

the likely point is that ULaw is then embedded to offer SQE 1 or 2 training in those universities either directly or as a white-label product rather than lose a channel of B2C. Future-proofing I guess.

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Anonymous

If these provincials take the exam in Welsh are they barred from practising in English until they pass it in English? I certainly hope this is the case.

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Anonymous

You seem fun.

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Anonymous

I don’t care what you think of me.

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Anonymous

Yes, because it *is* inconceivable that someone could speak two languages 🙄

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Anonymous

Well they could sit the thing in English then. Come on, we all know the Taffs all speak fluent English and their abomination of a language is an overplayed nationalist affectation.

Anonymous

Thanks, Nigel.

Anonymous

Those dissing Wales have never seen the beautiful parts of Pembrokeshire. They are missing out.

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Anonymous

It is like a less good version of Scotland, and with poorer quality shooting, fishing, golf and whisky.

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Anonymiu

And by less good you mean shit.

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Cannonball

Nid wyf yn y swyddfa ar hyn o bryd.

Anfonwch unrhyw waith i’w gyfieithw.

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Anonymous

At least the original sign didn’t have any spelling errors

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Anonymous

Why do we have to pick up the tab for the pipe dreams of some deluded nationalists trying to resurrect a dead culture? Absolutely outrageous, and dangerous to the unity of the country too.

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Anonymous

And the winner of the most UKIPy comment goes to…

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Anonymous

Criticising the costs of pandering to the affectations of people who speak fluent English is not “UKIPy” in the slightest. Kippers are tools of the highest order.

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Anonymous

A thousand-year old language is not an affectation, you Kipper.

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Bryn

Smug imperialist lawyers acting cocky when their empire is dying…hilarious …

Maybe just maybe, other native languages should be respected

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Machynlleth is not a dirty word!

We also need Welsh banknotes! Scotland and N.Ireland have their own Sterling notes (including a £1 note in Scotland). I think in Wales there should be a 50p note to reflect the lower cost of living!

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Anonymous

There isn’t a law school that teaches in Welsh so it seems stupid to incur the time and expenses involved every exam season. Unless of course there was a certain Welsh scholar such as David Dixon, a senior law lecturer at Cardiff University, who is touting for this business as he is presumably a Welsh speaker and has something of a grasp on the law?

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