Solicitor questions why state school lawyers have ‘clubs’ but the privately educated don’t

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Sparks debate on LinkedIn


A solicitor has sparked debate online after appearing to suggest there might be a need for a club exclusively for lawyers who attended private school.

Posting on LinkedIn, employment law specialist Elliot Hammer said he is proud of being a privately educated lawyer and noted that he was among a minority who don’t have a “club”. This, he said, is in contrast to “the massive majority 93% state school peeps do, which I think terribly unfair.”

Hammer, a partner at London firm Branch Austin McCormick, went on to ask if anyone would be interested in setting up such a club. “If you’re bored of virtue signalling on LinkedIn, or if you’ve got an employment or litigation case, DM me and we can discuss.”

One of Hammer’s LinkedIn connections questioned whether the post was satire, while another said it had made them “chuckle”.

Others, however, took it more seriously. “Just to explain,” wrote fellow lawyer Rebecca Taylor-Onion, “if you’re not at any disadvantage due your socioeconomic background and education, you don’t need a club to help level the playing field 🤷‍♀️”.

“It’s a club just to enjoy, not to level any playing field,” Hammer responded — to which Taylor-Onion replied, “What a luxury!”

Elsewhere, pupil barrister Avaia Nightingale Williams commented that “it’s about disproportionate representation” and added that “whilst only 7% of the population are privately educated, they make up 33.5% (on available stats) of the Bar and 22% of Solicitors.”

Meanwhile, Weightmans partner Henry Bermingham said he didn’t care where his colleagues went to school, preferring instead to focus on whether they were “nice people” and “can they do the job?”

In another response, legal recruiter Jason Connolly commented: “An interesting take — and one that highlights how much of the diversity conversation in law gets framed through a single lens. The truth is, whether you went to a state school or a private one, everyone brings their own background, challenges and perspective into the profession.”

16 Comments

K.

He’s sort of got a point. I attended a top private school through a rugby scholarship but grew up on a council estate.

Not many people see beyond the school I attended and make assumptions based on that

L

Your issue with people making assumptions about you based on your school is really not the same as the issues / struggles majority of council estate kids have in trying to get a break through…

Well done for doing well though.

Uhhhh

Great. So you had access to the advantages of a top private school…?

I don’t really see how experiences like yours support his post (‘sort of’ or otherwise) – especially if you can relate to people who share your background, who were not fortunate enough to go to a top private school.

He’s a grown man who has chosen to take the time to write something gimmicky on social media, to undermine a social mobility scheme aimed at helping people from a state-school background (which doesn’t itself disadvantage / express any view on people from a private school background, other than to identify they are relatively advantaged).

Not sure why he’s being given the attention he obviously craves, won’t ask what he thinks of other social mobility schemes…

anything to be a victim

They do have ‘clubs’ – it’s just a tad more subtle.

Private Practice

Elliot is clearly rage baiting. A few state school educated individuals meeting up every now and then to network doesn’t disadvantage anyone – it mimics what we already have. If Elliot just RSVPs to his next alumni dinner, he will meet friends across multiple firms and chambers.

very rich kid

Something happened to golf and men’s clubs so the guy needs another one?

A

You are making his point for him. Why judge a person more on the basis of the school he went to than the rest of his upbringing and experiences.a

Alex

I think his concern is not that there is no ‘club’, but that anyone would be vilified for creating one, shamed into closing it, and expected to suffer a career foul for it.

It may not be a club you or I would join, we may not see the point of it (like say, the Round Table, the rotary club or the WI), but it would inevitably be faced by the same faux outrage that faces those who suggest a counterpoint to the black police officers association, or other clubs.

I suspect the post is a result of fatigue in being derided for having a good education.

John

What a fatuous reply! He is busy creating a club of financially and educationallly advantaged victims of having a fairer system- so they can share their terrible stories of how interviewers failed to ask them if they played fives or refused to accept their $100k + 3As and a 2:1 must be better than a state educated but free 3As and a 2:1

Sion Tyst

There is a basic point as to which the woke, and the left generally, are science deniers. There is a very high correlation between income and IQ. IQ is now considered over 75% genetic and likely more as the polygenetic variables clarify. Add in the scholarship and bursary kids and the fact is that the private schools would naturally be weighted more heavily towards those with higher IQs. The idea that a work place representation of 93/7 would indicate equality is just nonsense.

John

What a fatuous reply! The countries with the best results also have the most equal education systems and very small private systems. And I would very much like to see your IQ studies – who conducted?rhem and in what country and sample? UK private schools spend 3-6 x per pupil – if you had that disparity in any service you would expect corresponding results. Amazingly it seems State school pupils not only compete with their minimal resouces, they often outperform the pampered darlings…

John

And IQ/intelligence is not considered 75% genetic you dork. The genetic c8mponent is very much smaller insofar as it can be established and mixed with the intelligence of the parents, their input into early tears and further, and the vastly increased resources put into getting qualifications. The most influentual factors in achievement are mother’s educational level and peers according to a well-known Chicago study.

Sally Terris

Where do you get this nonsense from ? Nigel Farage ?

hank moody

Yawn

They have clubs, they are called Inns of Court, and Lodges..

Pontius Pie-Face

I think such a club is a great idea.

I think the model it should follow is that of a refuge or a therapist.

It must be difficult to recover from the experience after all.

Think about what they had to endure, even in recent times.

Consider the following:

1. The vicious beatings (caning in private schools was only outlawed in 1999);

2. The enforced brutality (“character building” bullying such as bogwashing, having your bed wet by someone else, being buggered by prefects etc);

3. The casual sexual abuse by pederastic teachers who regarded themselves as practicing a Greco-Roman tradition;

4. The privations such as having to sleep in one room with many other boys and no freedom to for show emotional expression for fear of being labelled a “Nancy-boy”. Crying was a capital offence in this regard.

5. Having come through it all, discovering that despite what had been promised, there is no golden meal ticket at the end of the ordeal.

Frankly, anyone who had been through the above in any other situation would be a victim of modern slavery and entitled to asylum!

These people deserve our pity, not our vilification.

Joe

Tfw you have to write rage bait to promote your firm’s business

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