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Lincoln, Glasgow and Aberystwyth Unis home to nation’s happiest law students

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Trio top National Student Survey for LLB satisfaction; ULaw performs strongly across the board; Russell Group struggle

The country’s happiest law students are at the University of Lincoln, Legal Cheek can reveal. Analysis of a nationwide survey of undergraduate students shows that 95% of Lincolnites are happy with their legal studies, more than any other major law school in the UK.

The results come from the National Student Survey, a major poll asking final year undergrads about their uni experience that can be broken down by university and subject. This year 330,000 students completed the survey, which is carried out by the Office for Students.

Behind Lincoln, Glasgow and Aberystwyth came in second and third, scoring 94% and 93%.

Also performing strongly in the survey was The University of Law, which placed in the top ten for five out of eight categories of the survey (‘teaching’, ‘learning opportunities’, ‘academic support’, ‘learning resources’ and ‘student voice’).

The 2019 Legal Cheek LPC Most List

We’ve ranked the top performers below, leaving out unis where fewer than 50 law students responded.

The happiest law students 2019

Rank University Score
1. University of Lincoln 95%
2. University of Glasgow 94%
3. Aberystwyth University 93%
=4. University of Aberdeen 92%
=4. The University of Leeds 92%
6. Bangor University 91%
=7. Cardiff University 90%
=7. University of Dundee 90%
=7. The University of East Anglia 90%
=7. King’s College London 90%
=11. De Montfort University 89%
=11. The University of Kent 89%
=13. Canterbury Christ Church University 88%
=13. The University of Law 88%

Perhaps surprisingly, the elite Russell Group unis only landed only a handful of the top spots. The likes of Durham (80%), LSE (79%) and Manchester (73%) are well off the pace when it comes to law student satisfaction.

Oxford and Cambridge are not included, as their students boycotted the survey altogether. Oxbridge did come out on top of a recent Guardian ranking of law schools, followed by UCL, Dundee and Solent.

41 Comments

Gubafail

Yeah I know, I’d be totes thrilled about my impending unemployment too. So funneh!!!

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Kirkland Trainee

Good luck getting a training contract 😂

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Anonymous

Back to your TC applications, gimp

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Kirkland NQ

I wouldn’t know how to do one to be fair, I got headhunted by the ‘Land strait out of my first lecture at Uni.

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CMS 4th Seat Trainee

Nice! I was headhunted by the ‘Land based on some board minutes I drafted for a PE deal I was smashing over at the workhouse.

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Anonymous

ROFL LMAO TOPKEK

Anonymous

Glasgow grad; US firm associate. Go f**k yourself, gimp.

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Anonymous

Do not feed the troll

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Kirkland NQ

Haha, you do realise that being a paralegal doesn’t mean you are an associate?

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Bully Boi

Is that you, Rupert?

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Anonymous

Happiness does not necessarily correlate to the quality of the Course. Peeps may be very stressed and unhappy dealing with the high work load of a demanding course and chilled and relaxed on a less good, less demanding course.

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Tin Tin

This is an excellent point. Universities, and especially Law Schools, are terrified of having a poor retention and progression rate. This feeds into the NSS survey and impinges on their future recruitment. It also damages the status of the university as a whole. So the Law Schools deal with this by keeping the students “happy.”

How do you maintain “happy”? A great example of this is what Manchester Met. (Manchester Law School) have done. The most important thing to know is that you cannot, at any price, frighten the first year students. This has a massive impact on retention. So what they did was to do away with a trivial subject like English Legal System and replaced it with ‘Law and Society.’ The latter subject was almost a ‘Law-Free zone’ and assessed by an assignment and a presentation. Students easily progressed to the second year. Sadly, however, no one had a clue about precedent, the court structure, the legal profession etc. No one failed this Mickey Mouse module unless they failed to submit or did not turn up. Even then, they had a second and a third opportunity. Secondly, as Man. Met. also did, you make an unpopular subject like Equity and Trusts an elective. Thus, it will soon not be taught at all. That solves another progression and low mark problem.

The problem is, when you devalue the currency like this, it is not lost on employers. Do remember that only around 20% of LL.B. graduates get training contracts anyway. The point is that employers – be they law firms or otherwise – will realise that Law students from, say, Man. Met. or Lincoln might be “happier” but that their LL.B. is pretty worthless. Whereas those from Durham might have been a tad more stressed at university, but that their LL.B.(Dunelm), as a consequence, is one well worthy of the having.

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Curious

How did Manchester Met get away with this while still keeping the degree as a ‘qualifying law degree’? Equity and Trusts is a core module.

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Tin Tin

Good question curious. I wondered the same thing. The answer is, as a consequence of the new Super Exam, law schools no longer have to teach the exemption subjects, or, indeed, have them assessed by means of a written examination if they do. I know of one very well established law school that is abandoning ALL exams for 2019-20.

Times they are a changin’. None of it for the better.

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Anonymous

I can see how that works for students seeking to qualify as solicitors, but the BSB still requires either a qualifing law degree or any degree plus GDL. So turning their law degree into one lacking the exception seems a strange move. Even though solicitors need not pass the core stubjects at degree level now (or do a degree at all), they do have to pass the core subjects at the super exam. The only advantage to doing a degree at all for solicitors would be to gain the knowledge needed to pass the Super Exam. If the LLB does not do that, why would anyone choose to do it?

Tin Tin

Why, in response to ‘Curious,’ would one want to do an LL.B.? Well, I would predict that in five to ten years the LL.B. will be extinct. People will not know what the initials stand for. What will happen is that lots of post-graduate cramming schools will emerge to instruct people in how to pass the Super Exam.

This will produce exactly the opposite effect that the BCB promise at present. Only the wealthy graduates will be able to afford the ‘cram’. Secondly, with the death and replacement of the ‘academic stage’ (ie the LL.B.), the subject of Law will become as learned as the study of loft conversions or the examination of how to defrost a fridge.

Just watch that space!

Tin Tin

Sorry, meant ‘BSB’

Katie

Hi Lincoln graduate here!
Do your research, we did do a legal skills module in first year, and it was assessed through an assignment and a moot. We also did equity and trusts, i’m not likely to forget that in a hurry considering how hard I found it. This elitist view of law schools is exactly why the profession is full of private school educated, middle class students. Whilst the top unis are getting better at accepting students from a range of backgrounds, most of us lower class students still struggle to get into top schools. I chose to go to Lincoln because I liked the electives they offered. I also got accepted at Uni of Manchester and Uni of Exeter, but chose not to go because I didn’t like the course as much. That’s how I made my decision. I also have a friend at Durham who studies law there, the content in our degrees is pretty much identical aside from some of the elective modules. We did most of our modules at the same time and compared how similar they were. So enough, I’m sick to death of this elitist view. I’ll also have you know that I went on to do the LPC and have started my training contract, so go elsewhere with your pathetic elitist chat. I didn’t work for 3 years to have some nobody call my hard work a “mickey mouse” degree, it’s insulting and rude.

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Tin Tin

Hello Katie,

My comments related to Manchester Metropolitan vis-a-vis the modules etc. If you had read my response carefully enough you would have seen that. However, I do apologise if I in any way appeared to ‘tar Lincoln with the same brush.’

In fact I am very glad that you recount that Lincoln is upholding standards. Your point about elitism is also valid. Some institutions, precisely because they are viewed as low status, have battled the hardest to maintain the old ways, which is somewhat ironic. I write this from personal experience.

The trouble is that in doing this they are rather like King Canute trying to keep back the waves. They not only have to fight against their own institutions but also, now, the Law Society and the BSB, in battling thus.

In addition I do recognise that there are many reasons why very able students pick certain Law Schools. It could be nearness to home or small group teaching, etc, etc.

Good luck with your LPC.

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Anonymous

So a large number of non English universities ranked well. Interesting.

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Anonymous

The Scotish govenment paying students course fees may explain why the scots are happier about things in general. 😉

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UCL Law

Never heard of them…

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Oxford Law

Never heard of you…

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Anonymous

Ultimate diss.

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Anonymous

I heard of them. It is one of those places the rejects go after a failed interview.

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ucLAD

Narcissism is blinding

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Anonymous

It’s true, ignorance is bliss

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Tommy

There is no way in hell 88% of students are happy at university of law.

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Anonymous

Yah I saw that and straight up call BS

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Anonymous

Imagine my glee when I realised I would be there for 2 years going part time. Shocking…

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Anonymous

#tagroft

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Anonymous

I heard Buckingham as a good law school. Anyone?

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Anonymous

Enough to get into BAKER BOTTS

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Justin Pediment

Was good in the 1990s. But, like many another law school, they either got rid of some of their brilliant staff (such as Gordon Goldberg) or just let them go (like John Stevens).

Sad, but there it is. It is now but a shadow of its former glory.

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Anonymous

*has

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Anonymous

Headline is misleading. It should be “[various places of varying ranking] came top of a survey among those that participated”. Cannot come top in the nation when entities in the nation boycotted the process.

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Anonymous

Glasgow isn’t actually that bad academically tbf. An awful lot of Oxford BCLs and Cambridge LLMs have come from there, and it’s a pretty rigorous course.

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Anonymous

This applies to most decent law courses lmao

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Anonymous

Glasgow, Edinburgh, Aberdeen, St. Andrews (albeit not for law). All very good ancient Scottish Universities.

Herriot Watt, Strathclyde, Dundee are alright too.

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Anonymous

Part of this is that a good ranking could help the qualifications of the students participating in it look better ie vote to be nice to us because otherwise it rebounds on you and makes your slightly scabby degree look even worse than we made it.

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Anonymous

Glasgow uni is shit.

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