First-year barristers at elite commercial chambers can earn twice as much as US firm NQs

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Junior barristers at leading commercial sets can earn up to £360,000 in their first year, new figures have revealed — double the earnings of their high-flying City solicitor counterparts.

Whilst those who secure associate positions at the top US law firm offices in London can expect to secure a pay packet of up as much as £180,000 in their first year after qualification, pay for top junior commercial barristers can reach up to double this.

The Legal Cheek Chambers Most List shows that high flyers at South Square, a commercial set with a focus on insolvency, can expect to earn an average of £150,000 in their first year, on par with associates at Magic Circle law firms, before rising to £250,000 in their second year, and in excess of £300,000 by year three.

Over at Brick Court the figures are much the same, with average earnings starting at £150,000 and bumping up beyond £250,000 in year two.

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Another exceptional example is One Essex Court, where baby barristers can net £360,000 in their first year, rising to a whopping £475,000 in their second year of practice, according to its website. These figures are caveated by the set with the statement that “earnings depend to a great extent on how hard members wish to work”.

By comparison, The Legal Cheek Firms Most List shows highest paying law firms in the UK, Gibson Dunn & Crutcher and Paul Weiss, offer £180,000 to newly qualified solicitors, with the potential for bonuses on top. Yearly increases in pay are often up to £10,000 per year, nowhere near the £100k bumps in pay that some barristers can expect.

It is not quite a like for like comparison, however, with the bar figures being total earnings, from which rookies will be expected to pay a proportion as chambers rent and other overheads. As the barristers at the sets identified above are self-employed they are also generally not privy to the perks that come with being employed by a law firm, including private healthcare, amenities, and paid holiday.

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Jibby the interested

Surely this is pre-tax man, rent, other fees etc. Anyone care to confirm?

Babs

Ready the (whole) story buddy

Anon

Article isn’t that clear – it calls them “net earnings” but then says further deductions will be made from those. In which case they should be called “gross earnings”.

Apples vs Oranges

That is the risk and nature of self employment for you. What you can make varies enormously as the amount of work / number of clients you take on has a direct impact on your earnings.

Not the case for employed solicitors. The base salary is fixed – though you could get bonuses for the grind if your firm pays one – otherwise, all your billables benefit the firm. If you hit or exceed target, you might get a pay rise promotion or bonus eventually but it won’t directly impact your immediate earnings.

So really, it’s a case of busy businesses making more money than busy and employed individuals. Not really news but a good illustration of employment and self employment. Good for those barristers doing well for themselves.

I’m already concerned this interesting comparison will be used in the NQ pay war to fuel higher pay rises – which is already at astronomical and absurd levels.

Let’s not.

Anon

“I’m already concerned this interesting comparison will be used in the NQ pay war to fuel higher pay rises – which is already at astronomical and absurd levels”.

You’re concerned about juniors being paid more? But not that partners making millions more in profit than what they used to which is a far bigger sum than the pay rises they pass down?

Oranges and Lemons

That sums up your blinkered thinking about this issue.

NQs especially in city law firms are overpaid. Enormously. You benefit from a huge premium already due to it being London, Possibly Cravath, and inter-firm rivalry pay wars. None of these factors base your reward on your commensurate skill or experience, because at that level, it is negligible. You are honestly still learning on the job. You are therefore overpaid – individually in most cases and certainly collectively. The fact that 70 and counting have downvoted would suggest that there are at least 70 readers in this position.

Also, I say again, Barristers are self employed – read the first post – it is comparing apples with oranges. That some of them earn more doesn’t justify this being used to crowbar a further NQ payrise.

And for all your ranting about not getting paid as much as partners – step out from the trees so you can see the forest. It’s a firm, owned by the partners. You work for them. Of course they are going to pay themselves the most – done rightly, they are also the ones bringing in the work.

I’m not sure why you have deliberately changed my reference to NQs being overpaid to your own misinterpretation of all juniors being overpaid – they are not – most firms are guilty of bunching at the junior levels beyond the NQ stage.

Philip

I would say that working on private equity deals at a place like K&E is more intellectually demanding than being a Bazza.

NQ City Litigator

Hopefully this was sarcasm?

Former Bazza

These figures are exaggerated and misleading.

The Bar Council have published for the last two years, empirical evidence, as to how much barristers are billing, by call year/band, and practice area. These numbers were following what I understand, requests that Chambers provide this information. PI insurers will in any event have this information readily available.

It is a very interesting read and available on Legal Futures. Spoiler alert the figures are way below as an average of what is expressed in this piece.

Separately, from the supposed above figures, you have to deduct aged debt/write offs. Every barrister has them. Chambers rent/ percentage of receipts of 10-15%, unpaid holiday/sickness, no pension, and the figures pre tax are much reduced. Then there is the insanely colossal work load, constantly , and the feeling you have to keep that level of work rate up, for fear your instructing solicitors will go elsewhere.

Anon

Well obviously averages will be much less.

The average pay for a solicitor is far less than what a top US firm associate is making.

They are comparing the top of the market across professions here.

Former Bazza

Good point TBF. Even when looking at the top of the billings, these figures are still off.

baby junior

I am not sure the figures are *hugely* inflated. Obviously the £360k is a gross figure but I would expect this to be the norm (or close to the norm) at OEC, Brick, Fountain, 3VB, 20E, Essex Court. From that figure you shave off c.15% in chambers expenses and then (say) another £20k in misc expenses (accountant; indemnity insurance; other benefits in kind solicitors receive). Pension – true, but many baby juniors are (stupidly) not paying in early in their career. So it is probably closer to £300k pre-tax net.

But the unpaid holiday/sickness is baked into this figure already: junior barristers do take holidays, albeit that those holidays are probably more likely work-affected than sols (because there is no real concept of “cover”).

The boom at commercial bar is real: baby juniors billing £250/hr and billing 1600 hours is gross £400k; £250/hr is an absolute steal relative to £500 at comparable solicitor firms (and quality is significantly higher on average).

Anon

The real difference at a top commercial set is that your earning potential grows at a gargantuan rate year on year compared to climbing up the bands at a law firm and then maybe making equity partner in a decade where you get the real carrot. Even that has been made more difficult by the introduction of all the salary partner tiers.

You can be touching £1m+ in a few years with a successful practice.

And ability to run expenses through your ltd company which you can’t do when being paid PAYE income where at the highest rate taxman is taking almost 50% away at source.

The caveat is it’s much harder to make it as a top barrister than a solicitor at a top firm. There are far fewer spots up for grabs.

Former Bazza

You really cannot be earning/billing £1Million in a few years with a successful practice. See the empirical based Bar Council report, I opined about up thread.

Anon

You clearly don’t know about the top commercial sets in London. Granted these are a small handful of barristers but it’s totally possible and I know some on that kind of money.

Former Bazza

Please define ” a few years ” please. Again if you have a moment, please take a look at the official Bar Council empirical report, when you have a moment.

I have very, very close friends at the sets mentioned here, two of whom work flat out and one of which took Silk at circa 16 years call, and is ranked in the top two tiers, in 3 disciplines in the directories for what it is worth.

Your learned friend

Former Bazza, I don’t know when you became a former bazza, but I’m afraid your knowledge is out of date. I am a baby junior at one of these sets and earn in excess of the OEC figures quoted. My pupil supervisors (senior juniors) were earning in excess of £1m pa.

Barrister

Yes you can.

As a former barrister, you are equivalent to a league 1 footballer in the late 1980 prior to the Premier League. You have missed the money.

In the last couple of years (really post Covid) certain parts of the Bar have gone nuts in terms of fees. Even outside the top tier, rates have skyrocketed. 10 years ago, senior juniors were smug to earn £250k, now most juniors should hit that in year 1 or 2 in top 30 sets at chancery/commercial/insolvency bar.

Restrictions on numbers but the reality is that clients will pay. The work is seriously complex and solicitors simply don’t have the time to get to grips with details and 1000s of pages of emails, letters, docs in disclosure. They are fire fighting with nonsense correspondence, internal compliance and just trying to win work.

Jack Pot

It’s a pay off. In the first 10 years at the commercial bar one can earn two, three times what the best paid solicitors earn. But equity partners in the big firms make more money more consistently than silks. And the solicitors have a pension.

Former Bazza

Even fixed share /salaried partners will make more than equivalent Silks. Add in paid leave, pension, a range of ” benefits” it becomes night and day. Firms like Kirkland and Slaughter and May to name just two have a very short run to partnership 6-8 years.

Albeit K&E has a raft of salaried partners , the most senior associates at 7 years PQE will be on 700k including bonus plus pension, etc, etc, month on month. It is widely reported that newly made up salaried partners at Kirkland are on £ 1 million, and newly made up at S&M ( which is I think still full equity) on north of £1.250,000. These firms are clearly outliers ,as are the Chambers mentioned here. But by way of summary a Junior silk at the chambers mentioned here will earn much less than a Junior partner at he firms mentioned here, and so on and so forth

Former Grammarian

That’s not what “albeit” means.

1yr KE NSP

Your numbers are simply wrong. Very wrong. Unfortunately. Source: My bank account.

Corrections

Your figures are wrong. You don’t get £1mil at Kirkland until first year of equity and no associate earns anywhere near £700k.

Rudufj

You don’t really know what you’re talking about.

K&E makes everyone up to salaried partner at 6-7 PQE, they don’t normally have 7PQE associates.

They don’t pay 700k to salaried partners.

It’s about 350-400k. At 6 it’s sub 300. I might eb thinking of last year’s numbers if im out slightly. Salaried partners still get bonuses, but it’s comparable to associate.

And equity is very tightly held and they don’t make anyone up. Or rather they do, but it’s uncommon. Then it’s like 2 mill etc. But most ‘partners’ there are just a title to satiate systemic insecurity and ego.

At most firms, mid market and top city, it’s about 200 odd for salaried, and 3-7 years until equity. And then there’s a complicated point system and PEP is meaningless since most partners earn less than the PEP, the figure being scewed upwards due to a few very high earning partners.

Slaughters is an outlier firm. Most have fixed shared partners. And generally coming into equity doesn’t mean riches as you posit. Usually it’s not much up from what you were previously earning.

Comparing yourself to others in an entirely different job is also pretty insane.

It is true that many barristers at top sets earn less than is being reported.

Pretty much nothing you’ve said is correct.

baby junior

This is just illustrative of the point that junior solicitors are hugely underpaid relative to their hourly rate. Let’s say you bill at £600/hr at Magic Circle firm, and you bill 1800 hours. You generate £1.08m for the firm: you are paid £160k pre-tax, just over 10% of that. Senior associates are paid a bit more, but still only a tiny fraction of their generated fees (probably pro-rata). Where does the remainder go? Obviously some to overheads, swish offices, perks. But that still leaves a big chunk unaccounted for.

Well, anyone above junior partner at these firms is paid £2m (and some a lot more). If that partner bills 1600 hours at £1200/hour, that is £1.92m. Taking away their contribution, there is gulf between their pay and their contribution. Of course, this analysis ignores that the partner will be the person bringing in the work; but, contra, one might say that the associate is the one doing it. That might be a fair way of doing it, it might not; I am not trying to pass judgment.

By contrast, as a barrister, you reap the fruits of your (and only your) earnings: you pay a small percentage of your fees back to chambers (to cover much lower overheads; fewer support staff). Your billings are not put into a big chambers pot and then divvied up according to seniority. So if you are a OEC baby junior (billed out at £300/hr – a rough guess of the rate) and you bill 1600hrs (this is obviously not indicative of actually how fees work – briefs will be a big chunk; but pro-rated accordingly), then you are generating £480,000 of income. Lop off 15% for chambers’ fees to £400,000, and another £20,000 for professional insurance, accountants, health + dental insurance, other equivalent benefits you would receive as a sol and you are left with £380,000.

But when you become a silk, if your rate doubles to £600/hr, your income doubles: unlike becoming an equity partner (where you are entitled to the equity), there is no sudden bump.

My only comment would be that a lot of solicitors’ firms could avoid burn-out/encourage people to stay (especially at silver circle firms) by having some element of barrister-pay. Ironically, many paralegals are on this form of pay: hourly rate, with extra for overtime. I cannot see why there should not be e.g., a base pay at CC of £120,000, with hourly rates (rather than a miscellaneous bonus) beyond 1700hrs/yr. That way, every associates knows that the long nights they spend at the coalface actually generates funds for them rather than a vague discretionary bonus.

Anon Associate

This is such a misguided analysis.

“Of course, this analysis ignores that the partner will be the person bringing in the work”

Err…. that’s why they’re being paid? Partners aren’t paid based on their billable hours. Most partners I work with hesitate to even put their time down on the file. They’re allocated points (determining pay) based on the total billed amount they bring in, not their own hours.

Associates are paid 10% of what they bill because their labour is useless without the partners lining up clients. Why don’t you go freelance for £600 and see where that gets you? Our labour (speaking as an Associate myself) isn’t worth £600 an hour alone – it’s only worth that with all the overheads and goodwill that a world class law firm has.

A factory worker’s labour is worth nothing without the machinery in front of him. He could be producing very expensive semi-conducters, but will still be paid far less than 10% of the amount generated as his labour is worth very little without the huge up-front cost paid for the infrastructure and customer relationships.

baby junior (again)

With respect, you have completely missed my point.

As I said in my initial post, I am not trying to form a value judgement as to whether barristers “deserve” to earn as much as they do or solicitors “deserve” to earn as much as they do. That is a fool’s game, though (since?) it appears to amuse a great deal of Legal Cheek commenters. Indeed, I think there is a great deal of truth in your comment that the partners bring in work and the associates do it and partners are comp’d accordingly, whereas associates are not. One might also ask whether, at leading commercial sets, the same is not true: the work comes in for the silks and the juniors plough the fields. What principled difference between that and solicitors?.

However, the only point I was actually trying to make is the one in my first line: “junior solicitors are hugely underpaid relative to their hourly rate”. That appears to me to be obviously true and explains the huge divide (and it is a huge divide) between sols and barristers at the junior end. It explains why baby juniors at commercial sets earn more, even taking into account the fact that their hourly rates are much less.

Not Commercial

Barristers’ expenses are lower than solicitors’ firms but higher than that IME. 20% is a common Chambers rent, other expenses including accountant, equipment, etc are also higher. I’m not “commercial” but family/immigration and am 18 years’ call. Last year was gross of £150,000. 20% rent, expenses including travel £35,000. Taxable income about £90,000.

baby junior (again)

Perhaps. I am at a commercial set and I think you have to factor in that the expenses inc. travel are very low as all the work is London based (or will be paid directly by clients). E.g.., if I am doing a SIAC arb, the flights are for client’s account. So my expenses are probably £8k/annum?

Former Bazza

With respect, you are conflating and confusing the solicitor business model. Anyway, how much do you think a full equity mid ranking partner at Kirkland makes. He will bill much less in his own name, to achieve earnings of £3million . So the idea he/she has to bill 2500 hours at x pounds per hour is wrong. It is a pyramid model with partners leveraging the associates time and billings.

baby junior (again)

Cannot tell if you were replying to my comment or another. I think we are in full agreement that it is a model where the partner leverages associate’s time and billings? My point is that this explains why junior barristers are paid so well, because they are actually paid at the market rate for their work.

Archibald O'Pomposity

Username checks out. Breathtaking naivete.

Anon

These barrister figures are likely gross. I.e., before chambers fees, taxes etc.. It is also worth noting that as a baby barrister at Chambers such as OEC, they will be expected to be permanently on call for the senior members of chambers. Example, they will be working through the nights so that the seniors have the work ready for the morning. That is not limited to babies, but will likely include all juniors (i.e. those that are not KC).

The junior end of the top commercial sets very rarely get to practice any real advocacy or have exposure to solicitors and/or clients. People will note a judge in the Commercial Court pleaded with chambers to allow the juniors to have some advocacy.

Not that the above is bad picture, especially when put next to the US NQs. Simply that it is not all sunshine and rainbows, and it is a very tall ladder to climb at the commercial bar until one is given the responsibility usually desired. It is not uncommon for the seniors at the commercial bar to be compensated in excess of £1m p/y.

baby junior (again)

I think this is maybe an unduly negative image of the commercial bar. Some sets whip juniors into taking cases more ferociously than others do but, outside of periods where you are in or in the build-up to trial/injunctive work, I would be surprised if baby juniors were working through the nights with any real frequency. I am also a baby junior and can’t say I have experienced this (again, outside trial or right before trial, or in certain fraud/injunctive relief situations) nor do any of my friends and peers at sets comparable to OEC.

Life at the junior commercial bar is, generally, pretty utopian. You are paid huge sums of money relative to your peers to do work which is academically interesting and rewarding. You can pick your hours based on how many and what cases you want to do. You don’t do a huge amount of advocacy – but you knew that coming in and, for the significant majority of my friends and peers, that is not what drives them. Honestly, I cannot commend life at the bar highly enough if you are self-motivated and have sufficient self-confidence to take an occasional bollocking.

Interested Noddy

Thanks for the insight, what are the hours looking like as a baby-junior at a top set like OEC. Also in terms of volume, are you looking at larger pieces of work throughout the day rather than smaller discrete tasks or is it a mix? I know WLB is crushed when there is trial etc but interested in what type of hours we are looking at one of these sets.

baby junior (again)

This is completely unhelpful from me but it varies throughout the year basically according to my preference or when cases choose to flare up. I would guess I have billed not much more than 1600 hours, and my take home pay (i.e., post chambers fees) for 2024 (first full year of earnings) was just under £320k. Of that figure, a big chunk (c. half) came on three big cases I did which did involve quite intense periods.

That said, my practice is slightly irregular for a few reasons. First, I do about half unled work and mostly in a specialised area of commercial where I can do that without travelling and with quite high value cases. There is a lot to be said at the commercial bar for becoming very good in a technical area, such as insolvency or competition or shipping or offshore trusts because, no matter how smart a “mixed” junior is – even somewhere like OEC, they are never going to be able to replicate e.g., a really thorough and comprehensive understanding of how the IA86 works.

Former Bazza

And as a newly made up/junior silk, you are likely to take a significant haircut on billings for a few years, save for a handful

Archibald O'Pomposity

You’ll take a significant billing on haircuts, too.

Correction

Generally nothing which has been said is correct. You cannot run expenses through a limited company as a barrister, and there are no novel ways for tax avoidance.

Anon

I wouldn’t be so sure about that. You absolutely can set yourself up as a limited company, although you have to gain approval from the BSB and your Chambers beforehand. As such, very few barristers have done so thus far (according to the latest official figures, that is). Not to mention, with the recent changes announced to CGT, you’re unlikely to save much of anything in tax. Besides that, there definitely is a range of things one can do to lessen their tax burden, it’s just that most people don’t do them (either due to lack of knowledge of their existence, or because they can be more hassle than they’re worth, unless you’re earning rather a lot of money).

However, I would agree that a fair amount said is inaccurate in terms of earnings. I should imagine that many baby barristers, even in very good comm/chancery sets, will not earn the figures suggested, unless they’re happy to work hours comparable to new associates at US-firms – which is often one of the reasons people come to the Bar, being that it generally offers the chance to have a better work/life balance. I believe, although could be misguided, that the ‘magic circle’ sets generally have longer average working hours than other sets. So, outside of those few sets, you’re likely to be earning comparable to ‘silver-circle’ law firms for the first few years, or on-par with national firms if you practice in less lucrative work. Still, it’s not to be sniffed at, and if you’re coming to the Bar solely, or mainly, for the money, I’d suggest looking at another career.

ededkemdkme

No, you can’t do it as a barrister operating in a traditional chambers. They may be some exceptions re BSB Entity affiliates, but it’s generally not possible. Chambers won’t allow it. The BSB just won’t approve it. It’s to do with professional independence. If there is some exceptional argument, whatever. And it’s not worth it because of the costs involved overall.

It’s just annoying because it indicates there’s some clever whizzy workaround to UK tax, when there isn’t, except leaving the country for a tax free jurisdiction, and you’re best placed to do that as a solicitor, not barrister (although you certainly can).

Anon

Think you need to find a better accountant then. Running expenses through your ltd is not “tax avoidance”. They still have to be justifiable expenses necessary for the purposes of your work. It’s just more tax favourable than being paid PAYE and having no way to expense things pre tax.

dcdcdk

You’re not a lawyer. You’re indicating you are. Tax avoidance is legal. You’re indicating it isn’t. You’re thinking of evasion. You can’t set up as a company under BSB rules. You’re self-employed. You can have a company formed and get authorised as a BSB Entity, which they are loathe to approve, and operates outside of a traditional chambers. Don’t argue.

sidcidc

In case anyone scrolls to this comment, the article is a bit misleading, but no doubt intriguing.

The normal caveats apply:
(1) cherrypicking outliers at outlier sets – most barristers unfortunately do not make much, and in commercial sets, the numbers don’t come close to the proposed above – we are referring to recruitment brochures at the very top sets noting earnings of 1-2 persons (in an intake of perhaps 1-3).
These people are typically very high calibre, intelligent, have fantastic profiles, work their bottoms off, and are oft people who are sometimes starting in their late 20s or 30s, having had a career in, for example, academia, or as a solicitor beforehand.

(2) these are pre-tax earnings before expenses. You cannot avoid tax in any meaningful way as a barrister in London. There are claims made in the comments which are not true re limited companies. There are various BSB rules. The earnings are not “likely” gross – they are gross. The gross pre-tax position will be perhaps 30-35% lower than the figures presented.

(3) be wary of grass is greener syndrome and navel gazing. That job is not for most people.

Anon

How is it not true you can expense things via a limited company but not as a PAYE employee?

No one is proposing something untoward is going on there – they still have to be justifiable business expenses. It’s just more tax favourable than PAYE.

For example you can expense things like laptops, mobile phones, cars etc less any private use adjustment.

sdsd

You have no idea what you’re talking about. You have read something vaguely about expense reduction before tax, and then are conflating with limited cos, which is entirely different. A barrister in chambers simply cannot be paid through a limited co because they are required to operate as self-employed individuals under the BSB regulations, which prohibit incorporating their practice unless authorised as a BSB Entity – and you cannot be authorised as such working in chambers, it doesn’t happen, it has never happened, it can’t happen, it’s prohibited for reasons of professional independence, the chambers structure as well as other regulatory reasons.

They can’t avoid tax in any meaningful way. Yes, they can deduct business expenses.

Also the point you make about cars is so inane. You don’t get cars effectively, if you’re in London which is where most are and the remit of the article. Because it’s personal use from home to office and vice versa, so you can’t get tax deduction. And the courts are right next door so there’s no day to day business use. And even if you’re doing county courts in Slough here and there starting out, it’s quicker, easier and cheaper to just do the train and keep the receipt, which is how everyone does it.

I don’t know why I bothered, you’re so stupid, you’ll find something else to be wrong about.

Ravinder Singh Chumber

Lawyers should be earning big amounts because of the rigorous education, training and qualifications they must achieve. However I doubt these figures quoted in this article are precise. I say nothing about university education standards nowadays either…

Follow the money

Commercial work, pah!

The real money is in bringing bogus cases against soldiers, dodgy whiplash shunts on roundabouts, holiday food poisoning and speculative representative actions against banks, car manufacturers and search engines.

It’s quids in for the sols. Kerr-ching!

AC

This article came shortly after the series of information webinar offered by One Essex Court, during which the figures were confirmed. Earlier I attended another webinar offered by another set, during which one participant asked about the potential earnings post-pupillage. I pointed ou during that webinar before it could just call it an end that a newly qualified solicitor would earn a lot more than a pupil barrister. During my days, which were a while ago already, chambers would only project (although a very few would guarantee) potential earnings not less than pupillage, but certainly not a spike above pupillage award post-pupillage immediately.

Can those figures be trusted even if they are posted on One Essex Court webpage? Believing this is actually a bet on the reputation of barristers to be honest and uphold public confidence. Would you believe any job recruitment page when the income figures posted are too high to believe? I also experienced in the past barristers actually breached their promise personally to me when I believed in such reputation, so I am actually wary. Afterall, they took the advantage that you are unlikely to be able to sue them anyways.

Previously I only looked at some profiles of One Essex Court and not the figures, and found the technical compentency level required in their work quite high, making it fair enough to earn more, but it also means it is not so easy to get your foot in, without the proper education. They got some of the most serious cases, so if you think this is why you want to become a barrister, this is a reason to pick such a set. Have you since lost that passion? Do they think you went to the right law school? Do you think you have the right grades for them nonetheless you feel your training background to suit to work there? They may simply pick someone they like and it would not be you. And there is nothing wrong about you not being unliked by them.

I never posted before, but I think the timing of this article came too coincidently and worth a bit of my time to tell something.

Anonymous

Eloquent. Ciceronian. Razor-sharp analysis. Didn’t realise Lord Sumption posted on LegalCheek.

Civil Junior Junior

I am 5 years’ post tenancy, working at a top non-commercial set (specialist civil practice area), and my taxable income this year will be (net of rent etc) ~ 225k.

I’ve taken 12 weeks of holiday, keep my own hours, tend not to work late into the evening, and have only worked a handful of weekends immediately prior to trials.

I also do not have to record my time in 6 minute units.

It has its annoyances, but being at the Bar at a good set is a very sweet gig.

Wigmore

There is quite a lot of misinformation and generalised comment here that misses a lot of relevant detail. I never normally reply to pay posts because they are usually just tittle-tattle, but think it important in a post like this (and more specifically the comments) to provide a little context. For background I am a London based commercial barrister with a little over 10 years call.

Yes, the commercial Bar can earn a lot (I say ‘can’ for reasons I will come on to). The commercial Bar has become increasingly competitive in the last 10 years. You will often see the same faces over-and-over in the big money cases at the Rolls Building. However, with the exception of a few sets, earnings in the first 5 years can be extremely varied. I say apart from a few sets because chambers such as Brick Court, OEC, Essex Court, etc. are slightly different. Everyone else at the commercial Bar will usually find pretty significant fluctuation in their earnings. I had one year where I had 3 large trials, all happening over the following 9 months, settle in the space of 3 weeks. Each of those trial would have been worth in the region of 60-100k each in preparation and trial fee as junior counsel. That stung and pretty much ruined my earnings that year. That is however a rarity. In other years, I have had 3 large trials that do go the distance interspersed with numerous interim applications. All bringing in sizable earnings. This is why earnings can vary enormously.

As for hourly rates…this is where I have seen the biggest change in the past 10-15 years. When I started, Silks were charging 400p/h with the exception of the very very pinnacle of the commercial Bar who might charge 500 or even 550p/h. Nowadays, not only have Silk rates at the top gone to easily 1000p/h, but there has been a significant bunching up of earnings with very few commercial juniors charging under £350p/h in London sets. It is safe to say that there will unlikely be a commercial practitioner in London on under £250p/h whereas 15 years ago, there were a lot of juniors pricing themselves at 120-150p/h to get work in the door.

Here is also one of the biggest errors made in the comments above – barristers are very rarely billing 1600-1800 hours a year. The work patterns of barristers are not comparable to solicitors. I know a lot of very successful practitioners who are billing 1300 hours a year. I know of barristers effectively working part time on a few cases and still pulling in pretty big money for 800 hours a year. The point is that when you are preparing for trial, you are working 60-100 hours a week. When you are in a quiet period, ie, between Christmas and New Year, you will often find counsel billing 0 hours a week. It can vary enormously and is one of the features that I enjoy most. It gives me the time to pick up the kids from school on a Wednesday and take them for some food, it also puts me in control of the time I work (apart from Court dates).

Here is the next thing…overheads. Yes, the figures are gross. Out of that and straight off the top is chambers fees. Anywhere from 10-25% depending on the amount billed per year and usually on a sliding scale. Then you may also have room rent, depending on your chambers. This runs anywhere from £500 p/m (for a broom cupboard) to £2500 p/m for a comfy room with plenty of space, including for a sofa, pupil desk etc. Most people share rooms so are usually on the hook for between £600 and £1000 p/m. Despite covid and home working, a lot of chambers insist on members taking physical space, to ensure that they have paying tenants and can afford the building they’re in.

Tax – dammit. This is the pits, it really is, and is why you need a good accountant from the get-go at the commercial Bar. If you really want to get confused, read about paying tax on the cash or accruals basis. It means if barristers have a very good year and then a bad year, or a year where they have aged debt, they can land in a very very difficult spot with their tax.

As for incorporation…there is almost no reason to do this and is why so few barristers have. In reality, you will likely land up paying more tax on an incorporated basis, than a self-employed basis.

So! It is a lot more nuanced than suggested. Yes, commercial barristers can earn a lot of money, even in their junior years. If you are taken as a junior on a big case that is running for 18 months to 2 years, you can make 250-350k gross per year (remember to minus in the region 17% for chambers fees, plus circa 10k in room rent, plus a few thousand for other sundries and then tax). However, I have seen other commercial barristers struggle at times, myself included, who take home £50-70k in an early years. Its safe to say that once you are experienced (circa 10 years), you will be making at least £150k in a terrible year and you should have average earnings up to the 250k-350k consistently. There are exceptions to this in the aforementioned magic circle sets. There are a number of experienced juniors in those sets who are rarely undertaking cases without a leader and in those circumstances you tend to find that they are earning significantly higher sums. They are working for long periods for big clients at 350-500 p/h for 1300-1500+ hours p/y. The result can be that there are junior tenants of 5-15 years call earning 500-750k a year at places like Brick Court.

I think what should be remembered is that there are also a lot of commercial chambers that overcharge for their work in my humble opinion. I won’t name them obviously, but have found some of counsel’s fees for relatively straightforward applications to be extortionate and sometimes reflect junior hourly rates nearing £750-800p/h. It is also worth pointing out that its a damn difficult job. Not always – but quite a lot of the time. It will attract people with the brains to do it and if those people weren’t practicing law, they would probably be making more in banking.

Mike

Interesting for sure. As an aside, does anyone know what Vartabedian Hester & Haynes is paying its NQs these days?

Circuit

Criminal barristers regularly lie about their poor earnings. Chambers in Northern Cities are chock full of barristers weeping outside courtrooms but earning well over six figures.

Former Bazza

As others have said, the initial post if to be believed , represents an extreme outlier.
It will involve , or extremely hard working baby juniors, being led in an extremely busy year. Don’t underestimate , just how hard these people will work.

Its just like saying, I work at Blackstone, I am a 27 year old VP, making £750,000 plus. Yes this figure is true, but it would be am extreme outlier. £500,000 would be nearer the mark.

Lord

It is quite possible to break GBP1m at a non-MC set as a junior of 10-15 yrs’ call.

While this implies working an insane and inhuman c.3000 hrs p/y at a rate of 325 or 350p/h, if you are on brief for say 2 x 2 wk trials and they go the distance (or sufficiently so that you incur your brief fees), your effective hourly rate can increase to 600p/h during the c. 12-14 wk period spent on brief – which, of course, you will more than earn – blood, sweat and tears will generally be secreted, mopped-up, and secreted again in copious quantities.

Chuck in a few 1-day applications for say 25-30k a pop and you can spend the rest of the year not working like a beast and, maybe, trying to remind your family/friends who you are. Although in reality most barristers are too scared to chill quite as much as they might want to between trials, as there is no knowing whether further trials will stand up, or which instruction they fail to say yes to might be the next big thing.

In terms of earnings, the foregoing would represent a good, but not atypical, year, for me and various colleagues at the commercial, non-MC, Bar at the senior junior stage. I imagine earnings are maybe 20-40% higher at the MC Bar at an equivalent stage, but would be interested to hear from others.

The challenge when one is at this career stage is gaining enough advocacy experience to make a credible application for silk, and then, if one is successful, ditching that successful senior junior practice and reinventing oneself as a leader.

Scares the bejesus out of me tbf.

[insert name]

Really good post. Essentially it’s billable hours x fee rate – overheads.

A handful of sets like Fountain Court operate like law firms so the billables flow to them – they work as part of a team in chambers. So both billables and the fee rate are higher.

But many sets the work can be smaller and can ebb and flow. So a 240 rate, 20% of which being VAT is 200 x say, 1000 hours = 200k – overheads of say, 20% or so, all in, it’s 150-160k before tax. And there’s aged debt so the year might end up in a particularly strained year looking like 110k before tax, and the next year might end up looking like 200k, which is a pain for financial planning.

Also practicalities of billing. If you’re at US law firm, for example, many associates don’t meet the 2000 hour target, perhaps 30-50%. But still it’s normally easier to bill that as the work is copious and the clients aren’t fee sensitive. If you move to a small law firm, it’s simply harder because clients will be more fee conscious and will expect a smaller bill. If you’re at the bar, and you’re told to do something in no more than 2-3 hours as you’ve got a particular client, and you end up spending 5 because you want to do a good job, you’ll charge 3, and there’s an ongoing pressure to look efficient to get re-instructed and to build your reputation.

Just not worth it though

You will be worth your pay one day but not at NQ level. Organising documents and keeping stakeholders informed with advice given by your supervisor only bills so much. You are overpaid for what skills you have at this level. Clients are overcharged for your services. But it’s a vicious cycle. They get charged. They pay up.

BTW, not all juniors are overpaid – so I don’t agree with you. NQs certainly are. Juniors less so the more experience they gain. The pay bunching issue at the early to mid junior years is a much bigger issue and is one that merits genuine concern.

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