Beyond NQ: What’s the salary progression like at your firm?

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Open thread 💬 💷


So far, it’s shaping up to be another summer of salary boosts across the City — some relatively minor, others more substantial.

As in previous years, Legal Cheek commenters have questioned what impact these pay rises have further up the ladder, beyond newly qualified (NQ) level.

Are pay bands being squeezed, as some commenters suggest? Or are firms increasing salaries across the PQE levels too?

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With this in mind, one Legal Cheek reader dropped below the line on a recent pay story to ask:

“I think it’s time for another article where associates spill the information about band pay…. Great to see all these headlines for NQs but we need to know what’s going on between the PQE bands and only other associates can share this info.”

So, in what’s becoming something of a summer tradition, we’ve created this open thread for our trusty readers to share insider knowledge in the Legal Cheek comments section below. The aim is to build an overview by firm (London or regions), department, class year, and salary (base plus bonus for the latest financial year).

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Anonymous

9PQE at Ashurst – £190,500. Thinking of moving to a US firm for the big bucks though.

US lev chinner

That’s interesting. A recruiter reached out to me (6PQE) for an Ashurst job and said it would be 155k plus 25% bonus, which I thought was wildly low considering the quality and time expectations at Lashurst.

Come join us in the Cravath world. I’m paid double the salary that said Ashurst offers.

Information sharer

The recruiter lied – as a lifer I can confirm Ashurst doesn’t pay 25% bonus unless you had a full on year (~2200+ hours).

olgoi

The £155k for 6PQE sounds about right.

Just make sure to avoid the Corporate Transactions team, it’s a toxic revolving door spinning at 1000rpm.

Anon

What’s wrong with him?

Anonymous

Yes but surely that’s not your take home pay. Yes double the figure sounds incredible but I recently watched a video explaining why many are avoiding salaries above £100, 000. What are your thoughts or comments about this?

Anonyme

I’m going to assume you’re just a naive teenager…

Big Law Bad Boy (was Bombay)

What is there to think about?!?!

Anonymous man

Anyone at Withers ?

SH NQ

Stephenson Harwood bunching is so so bad! 4PQEs are being paid only 5-10k more than NQs, and still below all of the silver circle NQs let alone MC/US firms. The firm seems to pump all of its cash into hiring new partners instead of retaining and promoting internally, and it’s making the firm lose its best junior talent. The churn of junior associates over the past couple of years has been incredible.

Up north

Do you still have that 80% work remotely anywhere scheme?

Sh nq increase?!

Anon

Are there plans to increase?

6PQE

DLA – 6PQE between £143 – £155 but it varies massively from team to team. I’ve heard of people being on more than that. Still, outrageous bunching, given that NQ salary is at £130 at the moment.

Anonymous

If you don’t mind me asking, what keeps you from moving to a firm with less bunching? Is it DLA’s billing targets (compared to other firms), or maybe in a practice area which other firms don’t have large teams for?

Anon

The reality is, not everyone can make a move, and that’s okay. It’s a competitive market. Those who can move, often do. Not everyone will land roles at K&E, Latham or Clifford Chance. In fact, not everyone will even make it to firms like Taylor Wessing, Osborne Clarke or SPB. People tend to work at the firms that align with their ability, experience or current opportunity, and there’s no shame in that.

Anonymouse

And on to that preference. Not everyone wants to work at those firms either.

Fair

Many people also don’t want to put in the 1,800 – 2,000+ billables expected at MC and US firms. Salary is higher but the hours you put in are also a lot higher.

Anonymous

Do DLA offer bonuses/how much are they?

Anon

If you have a stellar year (both performance and hours wise, 2000+), you can get up to 40% as a bonus. They often use this to justify lower salaries.

Anon

5PQE DLA c. £148k. – tbf the bunching is there but definitely not as bad as other firms. At 1 year PQE at another international firm I was on £500 more than the NQs, which is madness.

Bonus wise, 5% is pretty easy to get so long as you hit hours target (just moved to 1550) but obviously fairly negligible. Theoretically up to 40% is available but this would involve hitting over 2000 hours and a clean sweep of top marks on performance review categories (some of which seem to be kept deliberately vague, meaning how grades are assigned is quite arbitrary). If you’re hitting 40% bonus territory you’re probably doing so many hours that you may as well have moved to a US firm. Personally, I’m okay with c.£150k for weeks which rarely go over 40 hours.

anon

DLA 1 year PQE here. I am on 1k more than an NQ which is abysmal. Someone I know is 2 years PQE and they are on 2k more than an NQ

Anon

There are 1+ PQE associates on less than the NQ salary across the firm – justified apparently by not meeting targets

Anon

There are people at DLA at 5PQE who earn less than NQs. Salaries are only increased if hours targets are hit even if most of the team do not hit them due to insufficient work in the team.

Is it worth it?

There are 1PQEs at DLA who are on less than the new NQ salary, apparently. And up to 4PQEs who are within 2-3k of NQs.

Av’it

Regional DLA – 6pqe – £100k with 10% bonus & 8% pension contribution.

SPB 6PQE

SPB – 6PQE – £132K lol ☠️

+ terrible bns. Nothing for hitting 1,600 target. 1% of base salary for every 16 hours over 1,600 hrs.

DoorKnob

That’s not bad mate. OC 5PQE on £110k with zero bonus this year as per.

People keep jumping ship left right and centre.

Labubu

Can confirm, 3PQE at OC on £100k, not a lick more. Didn’t get a bonus this year either, only ~30% of all fee earners get it, and it only goes up to 15% of base pay (if you really over-achieve, apparently).

I’ve trained at the firm and have never heard anyone getting more than the paltry 5% and they had excellent performance reviews. But the hourly target is also just 1,350 and most days I’m out of the building by 6.00pm. So swings and roundabouts really.

7PQE OC

7PQE on £120k which is pretty pitiful. Have had a performance bonus for 2 out of 3 years (10%).

OC 2PQE

You must be either good at donut glazing or in a team that has enough work. My side of the 7th floor didn’t get squat during bonus round this year (or last for that matter).

Anon

That atrocious. Not really sure how they can justify such bad bunching. Also an inflation based pay rise for this year is basically a pay freeze in real terms. Be interesting to see how many people leave after this years pay review.

Papa don’t preach

Bakers anyone?

Underpaid BM senior working MC hours

7pqe – 168k…

Baker 5PQE

Salary 180k
Bonus 30k

Law School Rookie

2 years less than previous commenter but on 12k more? That due to different teams or?

CC 5PQE

CC 5PQE – £185,000
4PQE was £175,000 plus bonus of £70,000

US mid associate

US Firm base is £283k at 4pqe.

not true

that’s not true, 4PQE is USD 310 / what ever spot rate the firm gives. mostly around 235-250 depending on firm. this is true at K&E, LW, etc.

i think exception is Goodwin who randomly pay more at each band.

Big Law Bad Boy (was Bombay)

4th year on the Cravath scale doesn’t equate to 4PQE.

I’m a September 2021 qualifier (so 3pqe currently) and am on the 4th year Cravath scale (USD 310 plus bonus) because my qualification year is 2021. Admittedly, from September to December I will be 4pqe and paid the same but come January I will be on year 5 Cravath at circa £280k plus bonus whilst still being 4pqe until September 2026.

ok, but that's still misleading.

it only really benefits you like that if you’re a sept qualifier. I’m march 2021 but 4 PQE / 2021 class year currently. move up a class year in Jan while i’m still 4 PQE until march… but it doesn’t really imply that i’m an entire class year ahead which the original post does.

Bonus

What do you need to do to get bonus?

MCcc

Bill certain amount of hours & do valuable contribution. Two different pots. Need to bill at least 1750h in a year to get bonus.

MC

CC 4.5 PQE – 180k
CC 5.5 PQE – 183k

Max bonus at 3-3.5 pqe is 50k, at 4-4.5 pqe is 90k, and for 5-5.5pqe is 120k.

CC has good comp.

Hm

Stacks up pretty favourably post-bonus.

Anonymous

Macfarlanes anyone?

Anon Macs

4pqe £185k (excl. bonus)

Anonymous

Anyone at HSF Kramer?

AkinChump

Akin 4PQE a hair over £300k total, can’t be too specific as bonus amounts are fairly tailored.

Anonymous

Shoosmiths (London) 5 PQE = £102,500 (with NQ salary at £97k)

Anonymouse

Did you start at Shoosmiths as an NQ? What was the salary then?

An honourable man

Any Shoos regional intel?

Legallynotblonde

5 year PQE Shoos regional on £67K…

Competitor

Regional NQ is £63k!

Anon

Regional Shoosmiths 8PQE – £88k

anon

Anyone at Clyde &Co?

TopKek

Bout treefiddy and a malt biscuit as a bonuz. yea boi

Anon

Any insight on Addleshaw Goddard at LD? 7+ PQE

Anon

7 PQE on c.£135k. Bunching is pretty bad. Bonus 10% @ 1600

AG Anon

Addleshaws 2PQE 72k regions – No NQ increase this year.

White & Case

£200,000 at 2PQE. This is roughly the same as in the US, possibly a bit more depending on what the exchange rate is right now. After this it becomes team-based and ‘discretionary,’ which is annoyingly un-transparent.

Anonymous

What are your bonuses?

White & Case

Could be higher, but thresholds are very achievable. When I leave, it won’t be because I’m unhappy about remuneration.

White & Case Reply

What is the actual bonus threshold? 5%? 10%? The response is quite vague. The £200k PQE salary is already public information, so you havent really told us anything except that they pay well, which everyone already knows.

7 Year PQE Helpful response

10% for 1800
20% for 2000
30% for 2300

It’s not team based so the above is, how you say, garbage.

Anonymous

Is that total, or just for hours? Is there an extra bonus for performance to bring it closer to the Elite US we’ve seen here?

Unknown

Anyone have any responses for firms outside of london? I’m thinking if it’s a 50K nq salary what’s a 2/4/6 pqe earning?

Not all of us are good enough for these triple didgies

Anon

Snr Assoc (7PQE) – Regions – £75k

SadarBazaar

lmaoooooooo u livin in a wheelie bin ye ?

Anonymous

Associate – international firm regional office – 3pqe – £74k

IncomingTrainee

Anyone at Freshfields? Thanks

Sharing is caring

FF 7PQE – £205,000. Bonus 40% if 1,800 billables and subject to reasonable BD contribution.

MCTrainee

This is really helpful, thanks! Do you know what the salary is like 1QE-5QE?

Anoni

Freshfields full associate pay scale has being leaked on ROF. Check there for more info on FF.

AV

Anyone who can guide for salary brackets at Irwin Mitchell (London) for a Legal Director position? Also, for PQE 7 to 8 years.

Anon

7pqe £95-100k
Not known re LD but SA 10+ PQE is £110-115k
Bonus between 4-8% of salary depending on rating achieved.

Kirkland Big Wadd

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, £110k at 10PQE, what a phat whackkkkk

*cries at his desk at midnight on Thursday*

Bbcedlaw

LW 6pqe – 300k base, c.100k bonus depending on reviews etc. next year c.325000 base

HL meh

HL – £155k at 3.5 PQE, c. £30k bonus

Anon

Is bonus based on exceeding billable targets?

HL Litigation

154k at 2.5 PQE

dfjdkjfsl

Anyone know Slaughters?

Slaughtersalltheway

150K from NQ to before PQE2, and 158K for PQE2

Bristol 8yrs pqe

£95k base, about a 10% bonus for doing 1,400 hours. The maximum is 25-30% for 1,800 – 2,100 (I’d work in London if I was putting those hours in each year).

Anonymouse

Do you mind sharing which firm?

toiler

This has got to be OC or Burges Salmon.

Bristol 8yrs pqe

CMS. Burges is £99k. Their hours target is off-putting though (1,350 billable plus 650 hours of investment time).

Kirkland NQ

The ‘land. Enough to bankrupt a small Eastern European nation.

Anon

That made you sound like a prat

Slaughters 4PQE

Slaughters 4PQE – £191,000 (plus two pitiful bonuses paid in June and December)

slash

Is 191 including the bonuses?

MCTrainee

What’s pitiful, 10%?

Hello

Ropes ??

Rope rope rope your boat

5PQE – 255k + c.100k bonus at 1900 hours

US Firms - Deets

Any data on top US shops? Base and bonus? Likes of K&E, P,W, Milbank, Gibson, Weil

Paul Wuss

Somebody at Akin replied above, it will basically be Cravath, just match the class year to PQE. Also Paul Weiss doesn’t deserve a comma after capitulating to Trump.

Anonymous

TS anyone?

TSsinkingship

Anecdotally understand TS ~5PQE to have been on less than £150k when NQ was £120k last year. NQ-1 jump is something like £4k. Bonuses the last two years have been pretty pathetic – mainly because the business seems like a sinking ship. They changed the bonus system a year or so ago to increase discretion with absolutely zero transparency as to what is considered, also moved to discretionary salary for 3PQE+ also with no transparency on decision making whatsoever.

Oh, and they introduced target hours having always been firmly against it, too. 1600 hour baseline.

Associate morale at an all time low, partners jumping ship and it feels like there’s absolutely no pipeline to improve things either. Senior leadership couldn’t be further out of touch with the business and what people care about. There are stealth layoffs happening left right and centre. Quality associates leftover are running out of the place like it’s on fire – in some teams because they’ve been left picking up the slack and in others because there literally isn’t *any* work for them to do.

👀

Yikes.

Anon

4 PQE, 143k, 15% bonus, and hours target is a range of 1400 – 1600.

NQs are now 130k.

Any others?

Linked Laters

Approx. £220,000 base + £120,000 bonus. PE team

Anon

What PQE?

LL

Partner

Haul Pastings

Yeah, and now pull the question for £1,000 in the ‘This is Total Fiction’ category will you please?

anon

Skadden?

Lifer

10-11pqe Addleshaws regions £90k

anon

big yikes

Regional observer

Oof

Considering a move!

Anyone know TLT Bristol?

🍆🍆🍆

Awful firm, avoid. TLT London even worse.

anon

Is there a reason why you said its awful? I am starting there soon (!)

Anon

Is there a reason why youve said that, im starting there soon?!?

Tai Yeh

Anyone in Guildford? (CRS, S&B, PMC)

Anonymous

Also interested. Rumours CRS were going up to around £75k for NQ in line with their London rises but can’t confirm.

Baffled.

Clyde & Co, London Property&Liability (ex BLM team)… £50k for an NQ. Just WOW.

Anono

I’m in the Clyde & Co London P&L team (not ex BLM, but the original bit). I got £85k as an NQ! That’s wild that the pay is so different

Anon

It’s criminal that the NQ rate is only £500 more than the 2nd year trainees there

Anon

Criminal that the NQ rate is only £500 higher than a 2nd year trainee there

CMS anyone?

Curious to know whether there’s a lot of bunching or if that’s just gossip.

CMS?

Come on CMS! I know there are lots of unhappy people at that firm. Spill

CMS

CMS – 4PQE – £130k

Grapevine

2pqe 129k so assuming c£4.5k increments. Bonus v average.

More senior people pls divulge.

Now that’s what I call bunching… now 3PQE!

Outside of London but at my regional office I am on 72k 3PQE (NQ is something like 68k for reference). Pretty terrible bunching.

Anony

I left CMS Scotland before their big NQ rate uplift and was at £71k at the same PQE. Also know of people in the regions being offered London rates.

Anon

6 year PQE, £175k base. Average bonus also.

Anony

Any insurance practice bods in London? 8pqe and beyond

I live in a glass building

9PQE, 120k

Anonymous

IP boutique: ~170k 3rd year plus 10-15% bonus.

Anonymous

PG?

A&O junior

Base pay recently moved to pay bands with a minimum per PQE level, heard department plays a role but not sure what extent individual performance affects this (and at what PQE they start tweaking pay based on performance).

Minimum salary:
NQ 150
0.5 150
1 150
1.5 150
2 155
2.5 157.5
3 162.5
3.5 167.5
4 172.5
4.5 177.5
Senior associate 205
Counsel 235

Entry level partner on points worth around 600?

Am on the minimum for my PQE.

Standard bonus (95% busyness) is a black box.

Exceptional hours bonus (115%) varies across team but 1-5 for NQ/1PQ, 2.5-10 for 2PQ. Midlevels, depending on which exact subgrade, get 5-15/7.5-30/12.5-50. Senior and counsel 16.5-67.5. Junior associates in our busy and soso profitable transactional team gets around 70-80% of the max.

Keen to hear more from someone with more experience of the system, especially how much associate base pay can vary. More keep to jump to a US shop though.

Anonymous Two

Note that the exceptional hours bonus at AOS appears quite uncompetitive in contrast to other firms above (see comments re Links, FF and CC). AOS base salary appears to roughly track market standard for international firms (obviously excluding Cravath and other US firms) but the bonus is far behind.

Ex-MC

The bonuses look like a fraction of what other MC firms pay…

Anon

Scotland – Associate (4 PQE) – £65k plus decent bonus on four day week. Fairly dreamy.

In-house

in-house, 4.5PQE, actively encouraged to only work between 9.00am-6pm at most, come into the office 1 day a week, only do work within my chosen specialism – £150k base, £25k bonus, excellent pension scheme and more leave than I’ve ever had. Constantly praised on performance, given all the autonomy, healthy legal budget for top-tier outside counsel, no recording of hours or billable hours targets. After 6 years in what was ultimately a toxic private practice team, often can’t quite believe how well moving in-house panned out.

City trainee

Thanks for the insight. Which industry are you working in?

In-house

Don’t think it’s due to the industry (but, for the avoidance of doubt, it’s not financial services or tech). I’ve put it down to the company being US-headquartered.

Nosy Rosie

Any Fieldfisher insights? It markets itself as magic circle quality work without the MC hours. But what about the pay?

FFinsider

£130k at 6PQE and I wouldn’t say the hours are that great. Bonus is calculated on a complicated metric which includes various factors including whether your team met budget. So if you are on a team with a bunch of dead wood who either does no work and brings none in, bye bye bonus. This year my bonus was only £6k as a result despite hitting salary multiplier and billable hours target (1500).

Anono

I’m in the Clyde & Co London P&L team (not ex BLM, but the original bit). I got £85k as an NQ! That’s wild that the pay is so different

Curious!

Any Eversheds insight?

ES

A lot of bunching, 110k NQ rate applied from NQ to 2PQE (some get above NQ rate, but this varies between teams). SA in the 120s.

Shed Life

7PQE 140K. in london or thereabouts not great but not awful. Lots of bunching until you get up to principal and above really.

Eversheds 11PQE

£150k in London.

The bunching is violent.

anon

Simmons London?

S&S MA

MA2 160k

Anon

Pinsent Masons Senior Associate / LD capped at ~£155k. Bonus @ 1600 hours only 6-8%.

Clarkson

Take the speed limiter off and you’ll be pushing 220kph

Clarkson & co

Take the speed limiter off and you’ll be pushing 220kph

In-house (Regions)

In-house, senior associate equivalent @4PQE. £80k + c.15% bonus. Flexible hybrid working. No psychos.

Regional observer

That’s better than quite a few city firms in the regions

Mr Price

Price Prior NQ £200,000 + 100% discretionary bonus

Mr Khan (of Brierley Khan LLP)

Price Prior pays peanuts…Brierley Khan £250k NQ + 100% non-discretionary bonus

No newbies

Wait until you lateral to Baltic Cannon

Choad, Leong & Whide

We pay way more.

Anon

OC London

NQ – £91k
1PQE – £94k
2PQE – £98k
3PQE – £103k

Klaxon

OC 5PQE here, £125k

Anon

Thought they would be higher.

Anon2

OC 7PQE here and £120k.

Klaxon

Ooooof

Anon2

Is it that bad 🙁

CMS Future Trainee

Anyone know what the pay is like at CMS London

Anon

Out of curiosity, for the people who thumbs downed this post, is it because the salary is bad ? Or just bitterness at the poster?

Anon

Anyone know Mishcon?

Sunshine de Reya

NQ just increased to 100k.

I’m 2 year pqe and just increased to 107k (my peers are 106k – not sure what I’ve done to earn 1k more but I’ll take it).

Bunching is pretty bad.

Anon

Anyone got any info on Bird & Bird?

Anon

Anyone have any info on Mayer Brown?

Daddy Links

Links – 2.5 PQE, £172.5k base, £42k bonus, based on just over 2,000 billables.

Steel like associate

A&O levfin – same PQE as you, £168k base, £6k bonus (yes, not a typo), and billed 1980 hours.

Mao Ling

Gowling WLG?

anonymous

Reed Smith anyone?

Norty Rose

NRF 5 PQE – £155,000.

Norty Rose 2

Any others from Norton Rose ?

Norton Rose Associate

Also 5 PQE £175,000

Anonymous

Anyone at WFW or HFW?

Rosie Posie

Oof that’s rough bunching

George Smith

What about DWF?

Anon

Yes, DWF seems to be hiring a ton of people at the moment. Admittedly, lateral partner level much of it.

Anon

Yes, DWF seems to be hiring a ton of people at the moment. Admittedly, lateral partner level much of it.

Annon

Jones day anyone? what would a 5 PQE base be and what does the bonus look like?

Anon

Any intel on the firms in Dublin?

STB Associate

Simpson Thacher – Cravath scale but NQ and 1 year PQE get paid the same. Associates move up one band in January each year, so March qualifiers end up on the same salary for 21 months and September for 15… Great pay, just something to keep in mind if moving mainly because of the salary. MC + bonus could be a better place during those 2 years!

anonymous man

Anyone at Withers?

Adin Ross

Any info on Burges Salmon?

Anon

Based on this thread not sure that this logic holds up in practice. Seems unlikely that a MC NQ-1PQE will be pulling in a bonus in the 20k range. An exceptionally busy associate may get within touching distance of the STB NQ salary, but they would need to work so many hours that they may as well be at STB in the first place given they would then presumably be entitled to a Cravath bonus.

IMHO no one should move purely for money and, it should be said, these considerations are only relevant to a handful of people each year, but thought it worth pointing out that this logic doesn’t seem to track.

Anon

CMS regional at 3years PQE anyone? I know the salary review was happening recently

Burnt

11 years PQE Shoos London – £106k + 3% bonus

But no requirement to go into the office and can work remote

Anon

Anyone at Freeths?

Freesinking

NQ = £62,500
1PQE = £63,800

Anon

Any info on Taylor Wessing?

Anon.

Anyone with intel on what a 3PQE at Hill Dickinson’s London office could except as a base salary?

Anon

Is anyone aware what a 3 year PQE could expect t[ receive as a base salary at Hill Dickinson’s London office?

Trowers / mid-city intel?

Someone mentioned Trowers pays £80k at NQ and £100k+ around 2–3PQE, with decent hours (apparently 6pm finishes are common). Not sure how accurate that is—does anyone have confirmation? Doesn’t seem like a firm that usually comes up in salary threads, but maybe they’re quietly competitive and avoiding the usual bunching. Remote working seems to be an option too. Seem to be expanding (in some dept) so considering a side step if it means having a life.

anon

I believe 80k NQ level is whats commonly reported (indeed on legal cheek). Not sure about the 100k @2/3 PQE but would also love to hear if you’re correct. Where did you see/hear about the remote working?

Anon

Any info about RPC?

Recruiter

Regions (Top 50-200)

NQ = c.£50,000

2 PQE = £55,000-£60,000

Associate (3-5) = £55,000-£70,000

Senior Associate (6-10) = £70,000-£80,000

Director / equivalent = £80,000 +

Salaried Partner = £100,000-£130,000

Recruiter #2

London (*West End)

NQ = C.£60,000 +

3 PQE = £70,000 +

5 PQE = £80,000 +

8 PQE = £90,000-£100,000

Salaried Partner = £100,000-£135,000

Equity = £200,000-£250,000

*9-6 hours, targets 1200-1400 p.a.

Poor public sector lawyer

Anything for Bevans and Penningtons?

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