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Revealed: Law firms’ average arrive and leave the office times 2018-19

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Who works the most, and the least?

MoneyLaw might buy you a place on the mad London property ladder, but it won’t leave you much time to spend enjoying your half a million pound rabbit hutch in Zone Three.

That’s one of the key messages of this year’s Legal Cheek average arrive and leave the office time survey of over 2,000 trainees and junior associates at the leading law firms in London and the UK. This year the firm with the latest leave time is the London office of US giant Cleary Gottlieb (newly qualified (NQ) solicitor salary: £120,000) — where, according to our figures, rookies leave on average at 10:01pm.

In second place is Kirkland & Ellis (NQ salary: £148,000), with an average 9:49pm leave time, and third is Milbank (NQ salary: £132,000), where the average leave time is 9:48pm, a minute earlier than Kirkland.

The other end of the table of over 80 top law firms surveyed is a very different picture. Secure a training contract at one of these outfits — most of whose trainees are based outside London — and you could be home in time to catch the end of The Chase.

The firm in this year’s survey with the earliest average leave the office time is Royds Withy King (NQ salary: £37,000-40,000), where lawyers are typically out of the door by 5:41pm. The joint second earliest leave time is 5:43pm, at Hewitsons (NQ salary: £38,000) and BLM (NQ salary: £30,000-41,000).

Legal Cheek Trainee & Junior Lawyer Survey 2018-19 — average arrive and leave times

LAW FIRM AVERAGE ARRIVAL TIME AVERAGE LEAVE TIME
Cleary Gottlieb 9:38am 10:01pm
Kirkland & Ellis 9:45am 9:49pm
Milbank 9:45am 9:48pm
Weil Gotshal & Manges 9:07am 9:22pm
Skadden 9:15am 9:21pm
Latham & Watkins 9:39am 9:16pm
Allen & Overy 9:16am 9:10pm
Clifford Chance 9:19am 9:10pm
Debevoise & Plimpton 9:42am 9:08pm
Sullivan & Cromwell 9:32am 9:04pm
Linklaters 9:17am 8:55pm
Jones Day 9:00am 8:48pm
Sidley Austin 9:26am 8:44pm
Freshfields 9:23am 8:43pm
White & Case 9:16am 8:24pm
Covington & Burling 8:52am 8:22pm
Baker McKenzie 9:10am 8:15pm
Macfarlanes 8:56am 8:15pm
Shearman & Sterling 9:20am 8:13pm
Ropes & Gray 9:21am 8:10pm
Ashurst 9:09am 8:06pm
Herbert Smith Freehills 9:17am 8:05pm
Norton Rose Fulbright 9:12am 8:03pm
Stephenson Harwood 8:59am 8:03pm
K&L Gates 9:02am 8:00pm
Hogan Lovells 9:13am 7:55pm
Slaughter and May 9:13am 7:51pm
Reed Smith 9:14am 7:50pm
Dechert 9:14am 7:45pm
Mayer Brown 9:07am 7:45pm
Simmons & Simmons 9:11am 7:42pm
PwC 9:14am 7:40pm
Mishcon de Reya 8:51am 7:39pm
Bryan Cave Leighton Paisner 9:01am 7:35pm
Dentons 8:56am 7:33pm
Travers Smith 9:16am 7:32pm
Ince & Co 9:15am 7:30pm
CMS 8:58am 7:25pm
Taylor Wessing 8:59am 7:24pm
HFW 9:07am 7:23pm
Wedlake Bell 8:53am 7:22pm
Withers 9:05am 7:22pm
Watson Farley 9:25am 7:21pm
DLA Piper 8:38am 7:18pm
Bird & Bird 9:08am 7:10pm
Clyde & Co 9:08am 7:09pm
Howard Kennedy 9:02am 7:09pm
Squire Patton Boggs 8:45am 7:05pm
Fladgate 9:01am 7:02pm
Bevan Brittan 8:51am 7:00pm
Bristows 8:28am 7:00pm
Gowling WLG 8:54am 7:00pm
Eversheds Sutherland 8:39am 6:59pm
Addleshaw Goddard 8:44am 6:58pm
Burges Salmon 8:51am 6:57pm
Charles Russell Speechlys 9:01am 6:53pm
Walker Morris 8:32am 6:53pm
Browne Jacobson 8:48am 6:47pm
Pinsent Masons 8:55am 6:47pm
RPC 9:08am 6:47pm
Penningtons Manches 8:56am 6:45pm
Trowers & Hamlins 8:53am 6:42pm
Farrer & Co 8:53am 6:40pm
Osborne Clarke 8:51am 6:39pm
Fieldfisher 9:08am 6:33pm
Shoosmiths 8:34am 6:30pm
Forsters 8:58am 6:26pm
Kennedys 8:29am 6:22pm
TLT 8:45am 6:19pm
Womble Bond Dickinson 8:39am 6:18pm
Hill Dickinson 8:25am 6:17pm
DAC Beachroft 8:32am 6:15pm
Ashfords 8:47am 6:14pm
DWF 8:42am 6:12pm
Blake Morgan 8:45am 6:06pm
Weightmans 8:40am 6:06pm
Foot Anstey 8:38am 6:01pm
Irwin Mitchell 8:34am 5:59pm
Michelmores 8:31am 5:51pm
Mills & Reeve 8:41am 5:45pm
BLM 8:31am 5:43pm
Hewitsons 8:37am 5:43pm
Royds Withy King 8:52am 5:41pm
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As part of the survey we also received hundreds of anonymous comments about working hours. Here are some choice quotes from MoneyLaw and magic circle rookies. Note in particular the variability of the hours.

“To be expected we work long hours. However … trainees are treated like adults/junior associates from day one. It’s on you to manage your time. Some trainees do very well at balancing work and life by managing themselves effectively. Nevertheless, you want to make sure you get as much from the training contract as possible so there will be some long days/nights. If you’re drowning in work, it’s because you took on too much, a lesson you will learn very quickly during the TC.”

“They bought my soul.”

“Not unusual to go months without getting home for dinner, regularly expected to work/be available at weekends. However, when there genuinely is no work to be done then no one would question you leaving at 17:31.”

“Varies massively by department. If you get stuck in some of the rougher seats be grateful for either Saturday or Sunday off, don’t count on both!”

“Incredibly variable. I leave at 6:30pm fairly frequently but equally have had several weeks worth of post-midnight finishes in my first 5 months here and have had to work a few hours to a whole day on several weekends.”

We put the results of the survey to LawCare, the mental health and wellbeing charity for lawyers. Its CEO, Elizabeth Rimmer, commented:

“For trainees and junior lawyers often long hours are unavoidable — but it is important that firms recognise that a ‘presenteeism’ culture often exists, with young lawyers working long hours to prove themselves. Ultimately spending too much time in the office can lead to stress which reduces staff performance and morale, and can lead mistakes being made. Staff should have time off to recover after a busy period and not regularly work at weekends. Having the time to pursue the things we enjoy and spend time with friends and family is vital to wellbeing. We would encourage young lawyers to speak up or call LawCare for support if they feel long hours are affecting their wellbeing, and to make sure they look after themselves — taking a break, exercise, eating well, fresh air are all essential to good mental health.”

If you are struggling with long hours and stress you can contact LawCare anonymously here.

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133 Comments

To all impressionable students

Kids, don’t take this as gospel.

The firms at the very top have very long hours, the firms at the bottom don’t. That’s about as much as you can say, and frankly it’s common knowledge which LC have amateurishly dressed up as science.

The order of the middle rankings are codswallop. Dechert, Mayer Brown, 7.45pm? oKaY mAte

US Trainee

Yeah this is literally meaningless. Hours change drastically between departments and are heavily affected by where you are in deal cycles.

Also, until LC actually publish statistics showing the number of respondents per firm, along with their seniority, you can’t really extrapolate anything from this. Some of these “firms” might represent one respondent.

Anonymous

One respondent is often Alex making it up.

US trainee

100% this. I mostly get to leave by 8pm at the latest, but have also stayed until midnight a fair few times. Varies massively.

Rupert; a US Firm associate

I second twat.

Rupert; a US Firm associate

*that

Anonymous

Dechert?

Anonymous

Jones Day?

Anonymous

Weil?

Anonymous

Greenberg?

Anonymous

Simpson?

Anonymous

Titan.

Anonymous

Pepper?

Raz

Rupert DeBeere!

Or “Poopy Roopy” as we used to call him at school (long story!)

How are things Stateside, old boy?

Old grandpa

You quit smoking that grass son

Rupert; a US Firm associate

What the HELL is wrong with you people?!?!?!?

Why do LC ignore my requests to delete scummy personal attack posts like this???

WHY IS MY NAME FUNNY?????

Someone please EXPLAIN why my NAME causes you so much amusement????

I don’t know who you are, “Raz” but I expect you are one of the countless BULLIES I knew at school who found my NAME hilarious?????

If “Raz” was your real name, I could no doubt attach an epithet which used to be a derogatory term for a person with a disability (which might actually be APPROPRIATE in your case) but I wouldn’t stoop so low.

Besides, I’m earning more in a month than you probably make in a YEAR.

Look me up and WEEP!!!!!!!

PEPE

LMAO U OK HUN?

Anonymous

Meltdown

Curious George

I think someone hit a raw nerve there.

Raz, we would love to hear the story.

Anonymous

I would like to know how this data is collected. Is based on asking a bunch of juniors what time they usually leave and then averaging that or is it based on tracking entry card systems?

People tend to remember the time they worked until 10pm for a few weeks and conclude they finish at 10pm on average whereas if they left at 6pm for the remaining 50 weeks (assuming no holidays) they actually had an average annual leave time of around 6:10pm.

Anonymous

I second this, almost all lawyers at my firm overstate their average hours when asked. Part of it is probably the cognitive bias mentioned above, the other part is because in city culture one tends to inflate one’s working hours to prove how important/macho/hard working one is.

Grumpy Lawyer

Part of it (most of it) is that working in City law is dreadful and the hours are borderline abusive. Honestly, good for you if your firm has a healthy working hours culture. Never leave. It doesn’t translate everywhere. Fifty weeks of leaving at 6.10pm isn’t a remote possibility at a large proportion of firms. It’s not cognitive bias that stops me putting my children to bed at night.

Anonymous

LC get this from their annual survey of trainees. It’s not looking at swipe cards.

Tom

Why I do criminal law. Still having a cup of tea in bed 930am on a Friday
Not set foot in an office for years
Not got my brain out of first gear for work in 25 years
And pull in good money & have time to pursue my other interests
I can’t recall what the inside of an office looks like. You don’t even need them in the digital age. All my work is done horizontally on my iPhone
Offices kill your soul & rob you of the greatest gift you are born with – your freedom.
I see them as a bit like prisons, except the only crime you committed to get there was taking out that excessive mortgage & car loan you don’t need.
There are two types of wealth – money & time. Most sacrifice the greater of the two, in pursuit of the former.

STALLONE

Cool story brah, changed my loyfe.

Scouser of Counsel

I agree with this.

Criminal law is the way to go for having a decent work life balance and an interesting working day.

Anonymous

Being at police stations at 3am because a teenager had a joint and a copper wanted some over time are not something Counsel has to deal with. Solicitors working in criminal law have pretty hectic lifestyles because of the 24 hour nature of crime.

Anonymous

Actually, in-house Counsel can get accedited to do this sort of work and often do.

Anonymous

I’m having that.

Anonymous

Because the time you arrive at and leave the office indicates who works the most throughout the day.

Anonymous

Of course not, but who gives a fuck about quantity of work completed/hours billed? People care what time they can leave.

Anonymous

Fuck that shit.

Anonymous

Average hours across the firm are irrelevant, If you work on transactions at MC/SC/US/Upper mid-tier city firm you will will routinely work later than the averages stated above. The fact the tax and employment guys are long gone has zero impact on your life.

City Associate

It all depends on how busy you are! If you have a closing in Corporate or major hearing to prepare for in Disputes, you’ll be in as long as it takes to get the job done, properly!

When you’re not busy, you go home at a relativity good time, i.e. 6:30-7pm – this applies whether you’re at Skadden or at TLT!

Anonymous

1. This is about what hours people can realistically expect to work. There is no point going Skadden and expecting to leave at 6.30-7. How often are people not busy there? It is feasible at TLT and that’s the difference.

2. There are many firms where it is culturally unacceptable to leave at 6.30. If you are in a position to do this, it means you have ‘additional capacity’ which the firm simply expects you to utilise.

City Associate

you’ve completely missed the point here.. The point wasn’t that you leave Skadden at 6:30-7pm. When you’re busy, you work late. When you’re not, you leave. It’s as simple and as uncomplicated as that.

At Skadden there will be longer hours BUT when your team is not busy (which does happen) you will leave at a relatively good time.

Anonymous

That applies to virtually every single firm in the City, especially US firms. Hardly any dwell on ‘facetime’. UK shops on the other hand can be quite particular about presenteeism, as well as arriving ‘early’ in the office and such.

Anonymous

“When you’re busy, you work late. When you’re not, you leave. It’s as simple and as uncomplicated as that”

Please re-read my comment above.

Paragraph 1) explained why this statement is meaningless (when you’re hungry you eat, when you’re thirsty you drink! Insightful!)

Paragraph 2) explained why this statement is not uniformly true (there are firms where instead of just leaving because you are ‘not busy’, you are expected to seek out work, if you simply choose to fuck off, it will be immediately noticed and partners will immediately pour a ton of shit on your head, seeing as you clearly ‘have capacity’)

City Associate

You’re either a trainee at a shit firm, or an undergrad.

‘If you simply choose to fuck off, it will be immediately noticed and partners will immediately pour a ton of shit on your head, seeing as you clearly ‘have capacity’)…

‘Capacity’ – as an associate you have billable hours to hit and you do that. Simple. When its busy, you work late (very late) – when your team is not busy, you go home knowing the ‘downtime’ will come to an end at some-point and you’ll make the hours up when another matter lands on your desk!

I trained at a silver circle firm, joined and remain at a white shoe ( a proper white shoe) US firm. Don’t try and teach me how ‘City/US’ firms operate

LPC student

city associate- what departments at a US white shoe firm will give you the best chance of having weekends off? how would you compare litigation, corporate, finance, employment, tax and competition for hours in your experience?

Anonymous

Haha, was genuinely thinking you must work in HR, hence repeating the hackneyed line about leaving early when it’s not busy. To any students reading, that type of advice is useless puff which you should ignore if considering a job offer from the likes of Skadden.

My experience of working in a deal team at a small, elite US shop in London: the partners are actually good at their jobs and bring lots of work in (unlike the silver circle firm you trained at, probably), we are leanly staffed, hence we are perennially understaffed, everyone works on multiple matters simultaneously, there is no scheduled break from one deal to the next, periods of downtime are so insignificant as to be negligible, there is a pervasive live-in-the-office culture, bouncing out at 6 literally never happens.

And BTW, I’m a partner at SullCrom, don’t try and teach me how ‘City/US’ firms operate! Lol.

Goodbye stranger on the internet

Anonymous

Partner at Sull Cromwell- what are the hours like at US law firms in litigation and corporate?

Anonymous

Corporate is the worst. Just the nature of M&A, the clients work 24/7 as well.

Litigation is bad but not quite as bad. More predictable thus bit more control over your life. They are still often slammed, again, because of the relatively low headcount.

Anonymous

ROFL this is very entertaining. Please tell us more about yourself, “Partner at SullCrom”.

Anonymous

1pqe, finance, US shop which takes <10 trainees. This is my last post, got work to do and it's Friday.

City Associate

Disgruntled 3rd year undergrad who has faced several rejections from City firms, confirmed.

You really have no-idea. As for your poor attempt at taking a swipe at Silver Circle firms – anyone who knows anything about City law will tell you to train at the likes of an Ashurst, AG, Macfarlanes, Travers Smith.. The quality of training is far more superior in comparison to most US firms and even some of the MC firms – just take a look at the lateral hires into K&E, L&W, W&C et al…

Signing out…

Anonymous

AG?
Addleshaw Goddard?
Silver Circle?

You’ve just exposed yourself as a fraud.

Anonymous

AG is perfectly decent you cock

Anonymous

But, as any genuine city associate would know, it is not a silver circle firm

City Associate

Correct, AG is not Silver Circle – my point was, AG, alongside Travers, Macfarlanes, Ashurst are excellent firms to train at.

Oh, and for the keyboard warriors – have a look at K&E’s current Corporate team. Count how many trained at AG…

Once you’ve done that, get back to back to writing up your criminal evidence essays at your polytech uni..

Associate @ biglaw firm

Agreed. I’m at a “Cravath scale” US firm. Some weeks I can bill 90 hours and other weeks I bill 35. I often leave the office mid afternoon to grab a haircut and go to the gym etc or do some shopping then come back in around 7pm-11pm if I need to or if I don’t need to I send some emails on my iphone. I’ve worked about 4 weekends in a year and that was when deals were closing and I wanted to rather than being forced to. It’s easier to do this when you’re 3pqe + though as you manage your own matters at US firms a lot sooner rather than being at the beck and call of a partner.

Oh and nobody cares about FaceTime. Most people don’t even start work until 10am.

Anonymous

4 weekends a year surely isn’t representative. I’m at MC. Not uncommon to end up doing a few hours of BS on a Saturday.

Anonymous

You often leave in the afternoon to go shopping and might not come back? Name your firm please, because I’m sure we’d all like to join.

It ain’t Kirkland that’s for sure

Anonymous

Yeah I thought the same. Don’t work at a “MoneyLaw” firm, but can also chip off for small errands, albeit hardly ‘mid-afternoon’ and never for very long. Seems to me like the OP is making sh*t up

City Associate

It baffles me that you dimwits, who have probably never stepped foot in a decent sized law firm, comment so passionately about what it’s like to work at a US/top tier City Firm.. We have a good chuckle reading the shite you guys write.

Anonymous

Lol who’s this fake “city associate”. Haha simmer down fella, the comment about haircuts and shopping all day is total smack

Anonymous

Complete and utter fiction dreamt up by a student.

The fact you wrote ‘FaceTime’ (like the app) was a dead give away.

Anonymous

Or that the comment was typed on a phone and the world’s most useless invention, autocorrect, stepped in to save the day

Anonymous

Need to sort this out lads, can’t have the pussyholes at Cleary pulling longer hours.

I absolutely fuvking love it. Love the deals. Love the hours. Love the dollar. Going to be back in, smashing it at 9.30 tomorrow, after a noseful of the finest Colombian snout tonight.

This is the baller life. This is living.

Anonymous

Whatever mate you’ve never set foot in a law firm.

LC Rozzer

First year LLB student spotted.

Anonymous

Satire virgin spotted.

I’m actually a MC employment 2 PQE if you really want to know.

Anonymous

Figures that you can be dropping bantz on LC at 10.00am

Anonymous

Exactly, suppprt department massive.

LC entertains me as I take a nice leisurely dump of a Friday morning. Corporate probably have to drop a deuce at their desk for fear of being seen slacking.

Anonymous

Ah! A McEmployee?

Yes, I would like it as a meal.

Anonymous

MC but still don’t realise it’s ‘an MC’. Not ‘A MC’.

Ronald the Hamburger-Happy Clown 🤡

Joke clearly missed!

Anonymous

Top bantz, 10/10.

Anonymous

Yeah. Problem is, powder affects your microcirculation. Hence, in few years your (alleged) mega dong will be as soft as every other muscle of your sleep deprived body.
One day you’ll be tired of paying the iloveyous

Angry Old man.

The law is being tarnished by these stupid long hours. What do these ppl do other than make ppl rich while the poor go hungry. Close them all down and let go back to our roots. A lawyer on every street corner and a glass of warm milk. hmmmmmmmmmm. la la la. Goodnight.

Anonymous

Fridays are the best: do f*ck all work, put it down as BD on the clock and sling endless bantz on LC. Hell yea

Anonymous

You must be a trainee.

Anonymous

What about firms such as Proskauer Rose, Fried Frank, Bracewell and Baker Botts. What hours do junior lawyers work at those shops and why are they not included.

Anonymous

Really interested to know more about the work life balance at Morris Nichols Arsht & Tunnell. Anyone know?

Anonymous

Pretty long; pretty long; pretty long; not quite as long but not a walk in the park. Can’t tell you about why they’re not included.

Anonymous

Why do you calculate and record average arrival times if you’re going to completely ignore these when compiling a table of longest work hours? Was the maths too difficult?

Anonymous

They’re not included because hardly anybody works there and nobody gives a fuck about them in London, apart from you.

Anonymous

This was aimed at the moron asking about obscure US shops.

Anonymous

How’s working at Trowers treating you?

Anonymous

Trousers? Which trousers?

Anonymous

Wrong. They all have sizeable London offices and are top firms.

Anonymous

Lmao

30 odd lawyers is not sizeable
Granted Proskauer is a bit bigger but only really does corporate
These firms have very narrow practices over here
Overall they are not significant players in the london market
Accordingly, cannot be considered a significant omission from this or any other survey about practising law in london
Only people who care are silly students obsessed with nq rates

Goodnight, fresher.

Anonymous

Yeah whatever – some of those firms are extremely active across key practice areas in the city such as lev fin, funds, pe and white collar/litigation. A lot of NQs do eye them up for better work, pay and brand so more information on them would be helpful.

Anonymous

OK fresher, thanks for the education.

Anonymous

You wish you worked at those US shops, Trowers.

Anonymous

Go fuck yourself fresher

Anonymous

LMAOOOOOO so much rage

Anonymous

Cock

Anonymous

Anybody got the latest on NQ wedge over at Dorsey & Whitney? Would really love to work there but it’s important I find out this nugget of info first.

Thanks.

Anonymous

Anybody know the average working hours at Mintz, Levin, Cohn, Ferris, Glovsky and Popeo? I’m eyeing them up for better work, pay and brand so more information on them would be useful.

Anonymous

9-5 not a minute more

Anonymous

I was thinking more of Dewey Pegno & Kramarsky though. Would really like to train there. Any info?

Wallace

Wrong Trousers?

Anonymous

You’re so hardcore

Anonymous

Macfarlanes: 8:15pm. Yeah, sure buddy.

anonymouse

Especially given it has such as big PE department… that can’t be right!

Anonymous

Firstly, haven’t we already had this article? Secondly, how can you average arrival and leave times for 2019?

Anonymous

Kirkland lawyers arriving at work 9:45am lol. Bunch of slackers – no wonder they work so late. Get a f*cking alarm clock.

Anonymous

If you think that landing a job at Kirkland will see you leaving by 10pm every night (or even most nights), you’re going to be very disappointed

K&Eslave

Lmao this is so true

In-House

120K

9.30-5.30 (with 2 hour break for lunch & swim/gym)

Anonymous

how many years post-NQ?

Anonymous

1 year pqe

Anonymous

Pics or it didn’t happen.

Anonymous

BS.

In House Alpha

Oh its real alright you just dont know the whole story…

shooting for 150 this pay round btw..

Mr. Ahmed

I am work at top commercial firm in Lahore and am also earn £150/- per week.

Am wanting verymuch to come to England to be carrying on with commercial legal practise.

Can anyone be recommending good firm where I can earn more than £150/- per week?

Thank you Sirs for your advice.

Anonymous

Anonymous

Anonymous

Anonymous

How late you work is a combination of:

1) in the long term:

– how many hours (billable and total) your firm expects an average associate to work – this may, and often does, vary from the stated target hours.

– whether face time is ingrained in your department’s culture (typical clues: leaner teams, clique’y associates that have no lives outside of work, other jurisdictions (HK especially) or those run by old school/workaholic partners).

– personal goals (eg. gunning for partnership? get ready for more work.)

2) in the short term:

– how busy is your team at any particular moment (if it continues, usually equilibrium returns through the hiring or leaving of staff).

– where you sit within the heirarchy as, at many firms, partners and senior associates have more control over their schedules (ability to delegate, no need to sit around and wait for others to complete work, leaving grunt work to others).

– others’ perception of your ability (if you’re good, more people want you on their deals).

Anonymous

There’s also a difference between hours worked and pace of work.

At some shops you’ll work until midnight but also be overloaded with tasks to the extent that you’ll be running on adrenalin all the time. Which is a recipe for burnout.

Other joints will require you to hang around until late, but half the time people are having coffee or eating deliveroo together or generally avoiding productive work.

Anonymous

Disagree with the last part….people don’t hang around till midnight just to eat and gossip with colleagues. Lawyers are generally losers, but not to that extent.

Those who actively avoid working during the day are usually also the same ones out the door as soon as they can get away with it. By midnight, its the real niccas left.

Anonymous

Can only speak from personal experience here. Ive worked at two shops and one definitely fell into the latter category (and if you were unwilling to join in, you were then ostracised in general).

Anonymous

It happens and I legitimately despise it. 10.30pm and someone pops round to your office to shoot the shit about their house purchase falling through. I DON’T CARE. Please piss off and let me finish my work so I can go home.

Anonymous

Blm hours are a breeze, especially as they’re spent demanding unrealistic quantum documents and settling low level PI and property claims .

Censor Cheek

Pathetic. They have deleted comments criticising K&E and warning about the hours US firms demand.

Anonymous

And Rupert DeBeere’s little hissy fit, which had me in stitches!

Anonymous

Which has now been put back!

Anonymous

VWV ?

Anonymous

average hours, poor pay.

Anonymous

I can piss further than everybody else posting here.

Wallace

Wrong Trousers?

Anonymous

Absorbent trousers?

Barry H

How anyone at law school can read this comment thread and still have the slightest interest in becoming a corporate solicitor is absolutely baffling.

Anonymous

What is it with this modern obsession of being happy?

Anonymous

The ‘New Law’ moaners want to have you believe that working for Riverview Law on £30k a year in Birkenhead is best for your mental health.

Work your balls off on quality workloads.
Earn money.
Eat fish and veg.
Stay off the Xbox and Tinder.
Go for a run now and again.

Trust me.

I’m from Birkenhead.

Anonymous

@LegalCheek- why don’t you do something useful with these stats and create an average pay per hour for NQs so students can find the sweet spot firms to apply to?

Anonymous

What a load of crap. I’m at one of the top 10 firms listed and never have I left before 10pm. LEL.

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