Ince Gordon Dadds

The Legal Cheek View

Ince, Ince & Co, Gordon Dadds, or Ince Gordon Dadds? With so many names, this firm has had a busy time. Here’s the full story:

Gordon Dadds was the second UK law firm to float on the stock exchange, listing on the Alternative Investment Market in 2017. This ‘Gordon Dadds Group PLC’ bought Ince & Co LLP (minus most of its international offices) in a pre-pack administration deal in December 2018, becoming ‘Ince Gordon Dadds’.

The firm has now changed its name to ‘The Ince Group’ or simply ‘Ince’ for short. However, ‘Gordon Dadds’ will remain the name of the private client and family practice in Mayfair.

Ince & Co was founded in 1866 in Cardiff and expanded to London in 1870. It was always heavily weighted towards shipping law and litigation.

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Gordon Dadds listed as part of its growth strategy and has been highly acquisitive. It aspired to double its revenue within three years of listing and has achieved that target early. The share price has had its ups and downs — listing at 140p, and reaching a high of 189p. At the time of writing it is currently trading at around 140p, the same as its original listing price. This means its share price has underperformed slightly in comparison to the other law firms that have listed on the stock market.

In its most recent financial results, the firm’s turnover increased by 69% from £31.2 million to £52.6 million and operating profit also rose 73% from £8.8 million to £15.2 million. The business has cut its borrowing from £8.4 million to £2.9 million and increased its headcount to almost 400 in 2019 from 229 last year.

At the new firm, corporate and tax are the largest practice areas. Other prominent practices include shipping, trade aviation and insurance.

How has all this affected trainees? The “merger caused the level of training to dip”, one tells us, with their peers mostly agreeing with this sentiment. Trainees are “given high levels of responsibility if you are capable” but a “lack of day to day guidance, supervision and teaching” was reported. There is “very little in the way of formal training” but “good exposure to a variety of work.” Trainees consequently get to “learn on the job” which meant “soft skills definitely develop faster than legal nous”.

Trainees are exposed to “really exciting work most of the time”. There are the “inevitable trainee tasks” such as “typical document management tasks” but these are fortunately “balanced out by real work such as legal research, assisting with witness statements/expert reports, and preparation for trial”.

One trainee was excited to have “worked on some high-profile cases, three of which made headline news”. It is apparent that Ince has not lost its litigious roots post-merger, as trainees reported that there was “a fair bit of bundling” but also “a good amount of advanced tasks such as drafting pleadings, liaising with opposing solicitors, and performing research”.

The culture post-merger was positive. “Everyone gets on well” with “no competitive atmosphere”. There is an “excellent squad” and “no snakes have been revealed…yet”. One trainee beamed that they “actually love the friends” they have made at Ince.

The social life “has changed a lot with the merger”. Whilst Ince is “a very sociable firm” and there are a “decent amount of free hangovers” on offer, events “are few and far between these days as the new firm maintains very tight purse strings”.

However, the work-life balance was commendable. “Real people work here, they understand that you have a real life”. There is “no face time culture” as the firm “generally respects that you have a life outside of work”. Whilst there are “longer hours in Family and Corporate”, in other departments, trainees were living the dream, as “6pm is the norm”.

There was consensus that senior members of the firm were approachable. The partners and senior associates can “be difficult to pin down but when they’re around most are very approachable”. Often it is a case of “getting your foot in the door” and then you can get to know the partner.

Ince has “good tech resources” but “falls short of excellency.” There were the usual reports of those occupying senior positions being “incapable of using these resources”. There were promising reports of “lots of initiatives to improve tech, specifically efforts to enable agile working” but “support for more basic IT needs can be lacking”.

Trainees did report travelling abroad, but these appeared to be brief and case-related. One trainee spent “two nights in Copenhagen” and another was flown “to Doha for a day”.

As for the perks, it was reported that “the Ince & Co perks were very good, however the merged firm is set to remove a lot of these”. If this is true, the “free pear or apple on a Friday” may be at risk. The “standard package” of law firm perks include “discounted food and gym membership” but “salary wise” things had gotten “better since the merger.”

The office set up is a curious arrangement. The firm’s main base is at Aldgate Tower which is a “lovely modern glass-windowed office”. There were gripes about the open plan office as “loud dictations and personal calls drive everyone mad but when that’s not happening it works well”. The set-up “has its pros and cons” but overall the office “sparks joy” and “the view is piff”.

However, the insurance practice at the firm has moved from Aldgate Tower to the Lloyd’s building “which is pretty cool”.

The firm does have a canteen which is “very well subsidised”. This “great cheap food” was a hit with trainees, although its quality could be “hit and miss” with reports of “school dinner style” lunches and “small portion sizes with no dessert”.

Insider Scorecard

C
Training
B
Quality of work
A
Peer support
B
Partner approach-ability
A
Work/life balance
C
Tech
D
Perks
B
Office
A
Canteen
B
Social life

Insider Scorecard Grades range from A* to D and are derived from the Legal Cheek Trainee and Junior Lawyer Survey 2019-20 of over 2,000 trainees and junior associates at the leading law firms in the UK.

Money

First year trainee salary £38,250
Second year trainee salary £42,250
Newly qualified salary £64,000
Profit per equity partner N/A
GDL grant £7,000
LPC grant £7,000

Hours

Average arrival time 09:08
Average leave time 18:52
Annual target hours No targets
Annual leave 25 days

Average arrive and leave times are derived from the Legal Cheek Trainee and Junior Lawyer Survey 2019-20.

Secondments

Chances of secondment abroad 33%
Chances of client secondment 0%

Secondment probabilities are derived from the Legal Cheek Trainee and Junior Lawyer Survey 2019-20.

General Info

Training contracts 10
Latest trainee retention rate 90%
Offices 15
Countries 7
Minimum A-level requirement AAB
Minimum degree requirement 2:1

Diversity

UK female associates Undisclosed
UK female partners Undisclosed
UK BME associates Undisclosed
UK BME partners Undisclosed